Comments Thread For: Victor Ortiz on Pacquiao Fight: I Call The Shots, Not Arum

[jltsmae]

So basically you are saying that I should kiss Pac's @ss and love everything he does because he is fighting? Maybe I would love Pac if the dude wasn't trying to pull one over on us boxing fans. Just the fact that he put "147" and "154" next to Cotto and Margarito's name made me realize this guy is full of **** because we all know both title fights were catchweights. Before I keep it true with Pac. He has to keep it true to himself and the fans, something he has not be doing.

How dId u know that Pac wrote that himself nad not his ashwiper... I don't think Pac will make a big Deal on that cause In my Opinion that was just For Fun... u can't be always Serious all the time in your lyfe mate.. needs to chill out sometimess... don't take it so serious what you saw on the writing re cotto @147 n Margo @154... lyfe is short.. need to enjoy boxing while it last..

[jltsmae]

Yeah, your right. It is their opinions but fact is that Pac is doing it to himself. I have nothing to do with what is being said about him AND also, alot of them links and quotes are from Pac's own team. Explain that.

So if thre Media said "Floyd is Coward", it is an Opinion Yet the Links that you Post From the Media in your comments about Pac's negativity are Facts? better know about media mate.. media means 50/50.. as n Half/half... ask the latinos in here what is the meaning of Media..

[GRUSTLER]

How dId u know that Pac wrote that himself nad not his ashwiper... I don't think Pac will make a big Deal on that cause In my Opinion that was just For Fun... u can't be always Serious all the time in your lyfe mate.. needs to chill out sometimess... don't take it so serious what you saw on the writing re cotto @147 n Margo @154... lyfe is short.. need to enjoy boxing while it last..

EVERYONE in Pac's camp should know that them fights were at catchweights. You should be a boxer by the way you are bobbing and weaving my post with such skill. All jokes aside tho. Appreciate you not talking sideways when you reply back but to me but this is serious and if Pac expect boxing fans to take him serious then he shouldn't be putting stuff out there that ain't true. If Pac or anyone in his camp wanted props for the fights at 147, then Pac should have fought them fighters at 147. But he didn't. Case closed.

[GRUSTLER]

So if thre Media said "Floyd is Coward", it is an Opinion Yet the Links that you Post From the Media in your comments about Pac's negativity are Facts? better know about media mate.. media means 50/50.. as n Half/half... ask the latinos in here what is the meaning of Media..

Look, maybe Floyd is a coward or maybe he is not but my point is that. He tried to fight Pacquiao some time ago and all Pac had to do to get the fight was to agree to the blood tests, that Pac is supposedly agreeing to now. My question is. How can Floyd be considered a coward regarding Pac, when Pac didn't want to fight? Pac is the one that walked away. Shouldn't he be called a coward?

Pacquiao and Mayweather had agreed to unlimited random urine testing, but Mayweather also insisted on random blood testing, even though the Nevada State Athletic Commission, which would oversee the bout at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, requires only urine testing.

Pacquiao (50-3-2, 38 KOs) didn't want blood testing but later relented and agreed to three blood tests: one during the week of the kickoff news conference, which would have taken place next week, one random test to be conducted no later than 30 days before the fight and a final test in his dressing room after the fight. Mayweather (40-0, 25 KOs) would be subject to the same testing procedures.

When they could not come to an agreement, Top Rank and Golden Boy Promotions, which represents Mayweather, turned to a mediator, retired judge Daniel Weinstein, who had successfully mediated a series of disputes between Top Rank and Golden Boy in 2007.

But after nine hours in mediation on Tuesday in Santa Monica, Calif., and further attempts to come to a resolution on Wednesday failed, the fight was pronounced dead by the Pacquiao camp.

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=4808708.

So this is just an opinion as well? Looks like facts to me. Who's the real coward?

[maguirre]

It's true that Pacquiao shouldn't be fighting Mosley. It's true that Cotto struggled against Clottey and Pac fought him. It's true that Arum is not trying to make the fight with Floyd. It's true that Roach said Mayweather is different from all the other fighters Pac fought and he needed more time to get Pac prepared. These are all facts. Maybe Mosley's had the most opinions out of all the links I posted but most of it was from team Pac and they basically revealed themselves. Arum wanted Floyd to be rusty before facing Pac? Come on man! How can I believe Floyd is a coward when he tried to fight Pac already but Pac didn't want to agree to his demand? Shouldn't that make Pac a coward? Wait a minute, but you will say "Pac has accepted it now" but Pac is figthing someone else that Floyd beat up dominately. Dan Rafael didn't lie about that on one of the links I provided. I'm shutting this thread down fam. Case closed.

And this guy's hero is (PBF) Pu$$y Boy Floyd. Riight. A hero I can't even imagine ever fighting Clottey, Cotto, Margarito and Martinez. Same hero who had to accuse someone of cheating and demand the strictest test ever demanded of a boxer who he and his crackhead dad and uncle refers to as amateurish, fought inferior opponents, much like what this dude fanatic says. This is what this dude is proud of. And he is bashing Pacquiao?? This guy should commit suicide. And the last time I checked, PBF is demanding $100 million for a Pac fight. That doesn't sound to me like he is interested in beating Pac's punk a$$. It didn't matter what sorts of things he is called, ie, coward, pu$$y, chicken, etc. Pac should have called his bluffs from the very beginning. I'm very sure PBF would have weaseled out of the fight, anyway, by pretending he hurt his knee or something by the way he's been acting for several months now.

But keep on denigrating Pac and his opponents, then ask for tests totallly contradicting your ****** logic. Case close.

[Pinoy4ever]

Victor Ortiz was a former sparring partner for Manny Pacquiao.

I don't think they will meet each other any time soon, cause Victor Ortiz needs more fights at 147 and he is with Goldenboy's Promotion and we all know that Manny's promotor Bob Arum doesn't do business with GB Promotions.

[jltsmae]

EVERYONE in Pac's camp should know that them fights were at catchweights. You should be a boxer by the way you are bobbing and weaving my post with such skill. All jokes aside tho. Appreciate you not talking sideways when you reply back but to me but this is serious and if Pac expect boxing fans to take him serious then he shouldn't be putting stuff out there that ain't true. If Pac or anyone in his camp wanted props for the fights at 147, then Pac should have fought them fighters at 147. But he didn't. Case closed.

you still didn't figure 8 out, aren't you? Boxing is not just Pac alone wanting to fight the best out there... it involves business, money and Mafia maybe... thus, no matter how Pac wants to fight the best, you still have the business side of boxing and Arum as well!! Just what I have said, I would like Pac to fight 1: Floyd 2: and All the legit WW n JWW but it all depends on ARUM as the money maker u know... case closed!!!

[jltsmae]

Look, maybe Floyd is a coward or maybe he is not but my point is that. He tried to fight Pacquiao some time ago and all Pac had to do to get the fight was to agree to the blood tests, that Pac is supposedly agreeing to now. My question is. How can Floyd be considered a coward regarding Pac, when Pac didn't want to fight? Pac is the one that walked away. Shouldn't he be called a coward?



So this is just an opinion as well? Looks like facts to me. Who's the real coward?

and lastly, just a piece of advise even if you don't need this... stop living in the past like Pac Floyd's decemeber nego Because it is all history... everybody knows that Floyd does not want to Fight Pac (Maybe for now) AFTER THE Mosley fight last year... never heard of the supposed to be 2nd Nego? never heard about Floyd's rant and making noise ONLY AFTER a confirmed fight Between Pac - Margo n Pac Shane??? case closed...

[tomhawq]

And this guy's hero is (PBF) Pu$$y Boy Floyd. Riight. A hero I can't even imagine ever fighting Clottey, Cotto, Margarito and Martinez. Same hero who had to accuse someone of cheating and demand the strictest test ever demanded of a boxer who he and his crackhead dad and uncle refers to as amateurish, fought inferior opponents, much like what this dude fanatic says. This is what this dude is proud of. And he is bashing Pacquiao?? This guy should commit suicide. And the last time I checked, PBF is demanding $100 million for a Pac fight. That doesn't sound to me like he is interested in beating Pac's punk a$$. It didn't matter what sorts of things he is called, ie, coward, pu$$y, chicken, etc. Pac should have called his bluffs from the very beginning. I'm very sure PBF would have weaseled out of the fight, anyway, by pretending he hurt his knee or something by the way he's been acting for several months now.

But keep on denigrating Pac and his opponents, then ask for tests totallly contradicting your ****** logic. Case close.

yep. these clowns will do anything to discredit pac's wins. you have to wonder what the tests are for. doens't make any phuking sense.

waiting for a response from the great ****rider grustler.

[WESS]

Happy Easter all......................


btw, GRUSS much respect to you my man! Always representing the "sport". We need more posters like you. Knowledgeable, respectable, strategically opinionated with facts that compliment but more importantly a professional poster with a passion for the sport of boxing!