How come Pacquiao never fought Guzman??

[jrosales13]

I guess it's just names now. It doesn't how matter if they were just faded as **** at the time of the fight. As long as if you were great at one polnt you could be shot to **** and it still will be considered great for your legacy to beat a shot fighter.

I mean how great of a win is JCC for Kostya? Doesn't matter if JCC was a shot fighter. At one point in time he was a great fighter.

smh.

[jrosales13]

You are reading something into my post that was not there. I want to see the best fights because I am a boxing fan. However, reality is the people making the fights happen are doing so because it is their job and they want to make as much as possible. Sometimes the biggest money maker is the best fight. Sometimes it isn't. That is just part of boxing.

That's all fine and dandy. I don't give a pass to Floyd for choosing money fights over fighting the best fights and I don't give a pass for Pac either.

It is what it is.

I like one way more than the other but I treat both fighters the same.

The third fight was Morales was useless, the 2nd fight with Barrera was useless. He should had fought Guzman/Soto around this time.

[Ilov80s]

Sigh...Uselsess fights man but whatever. Explain after the 3rd fight with Morales, when he became Guzman mandatory why fight an unranked Solis instead of Guzman?

Guzman would have been more money than the no-name Solis, and would since being an undefeated title holder in his 3rd division would have been better for his legacy than an un-ranked Solis.

He could of had both but didn't...Why is that?

Solis was a replacement after the MAB fight fell through. They probably wanted someone easier so they could still settle with Golden Boy and get a rematch with MAB.

[Ilov80s]

That's all fine and dandy. I don't give a pass to Floyd for choosing money fights over fighting the best fights and I don't give a pass for Pac either.

It is what it is.

I like one way more than the other but I treat both fighters the same.

The third fight was Morales was useless, the 2nd fight with Barrera was useless. He should had fought Guzman/Soto around this time.

They were useless in terms of providing close competitive boxing between two evenly matched fighters. They were very successful in making money though.

[BoxerDood]

Why are people saying he opted to fight Marquez instead? This is NOT true. Manny fought Marquez the second time in 2008. In 2007, he had four choices for the fall. Humberto Soto, Joan Guzman, Edwin Valero and a Barrera rematch.

Soto: Just beat the crap out of Manny's little brother
Joan Guzman: Coming off of a victory against Barrios
Edwin Valero: As Manny put it, his resume consisted of cab drivers and wasn't worthy yet
Marco Antonio Barrera: What's the point? Manny already KO'ed him, and he was coming off of a loss to Marquez.

Obviously the best choices would be Soto because he beat up Manny's little brother and was a good name, along with Guzman who had a title. Manny chose Barrera, which was probably the dumbest choice of the four. Even Valero would have been better in my opinion. Sure it wouldn't have done that much for him, but neither did fighting Barrera again or Solis.

[IMDAZED]

yes...hindsight is great aint it? what a wonderful tool for monday morning QBs like yourself

It is great. Too bad I wasn't using it, making this post senseless.

[pacquia0]

The time to make the Guzman was like around the fall of 2007. Maybe in November of that year. That was the perfect time to make that fight.

The rematch with Barrera was unnecessary. Not only was the first fight just a dominating performance. And, not only was Barrera coming of a LOSS. But, he had showed he had slowed down a lot. The way he struggled with Rocky Juarez in the first fight. He just wasn't the same fighter.

There was no need for a Barrera rematch at that time. Nobody was asking for it. NOBODY. At that time if you were going to have a rematch with anybody, it was going to be a rematch with JMM not Barrara.

MAB was coming of a disputed loss to JMM. Alot of people thought MAB won that fight. MAB was undefeated since Pac beat him the first time.

[tomhawq]

i can't be sure about the outcome of this fight if they fought. they pretty much have the same style. footwork, stamina, can turn things around from a difficult situation. they're both explosive. don't know why we didn't see a lot of guzman.

[jrosales13]

They were useless in terms of providing close competitive boxing between two evenly matched fighters.

And, that's all that should matter to boxing fans. Everything else is for the people that will get a cut of the pie.

useless fights.

[jrosales13]

Solis was a replacement after the MAB fight fell through. They probably wanted someone easier so they could still settle with Golden Boy and get a rematch with MAB.

So you're saying Guzman was too risky so was avoided for an easier fight in Solis?