Bernard Hopkins top ten of alltime

[Lead Cenobite]

I never see anyone give him the credit he deserves,he has been winning titles ten years after most fighters are shot,he has outlasted Roy Jones and everyone else of his era and is about to collect another title at 46 fcking years old,who in boxing history can match his longevity,20 years from now hopefully the man gets the credit he deserves.

What? Stop being ******ed. He belongs nowhere near that.

[bojangles1987]

I don't know where he is at exactly P4P ATG wise, not including his Middleweight ranking.

All I know in this posters humble opinion, that he is ahead of Roy Jones and they're from the same era.

Debate that.

This wasn't much a debate two or three years ago, but the way Hopkins has stuck around, it is now. Personally I think Jones at his best always beats Hopkins at his best and was simply a better fighter, but it's now a question of whether you prefer technical prowess and longevity vs. a shorter career that was more eye catching.

[studentofthegam]

That's your opinion.

One that many disagree with.

Although if I understand you correctly you are saying it's based on acheivment not who woul win H2H? If so I agree.

And it isn't nostaligia. Carlos Monzon is greater than Hopkins. That is NOT nostalgia. That is factual/clear as day.

Im saying both are equally important. Because if not the it gives certain guys a permenant spot and how fair is that. Written history has a way of becoming the "big fish" story over time. To me visual evidence in boxing is very important. Resume is the least note worthy evidence. I say that because look at how we do with recent resume comparison. Fighter A could beat fighter X when he's considered a tough opponent. Fighter B could beat fighter X with wear and tear 7 or 8 years later. But when you look at boxrec it evens out the greatness of the wins unless you actually watch both fights.

[IronDanHamza]

I love how when I bring facts to the table everyone changes the subject. Debate the validity of my points or throw out name calling like a baby. Either way your ignorance is sad and pathetic.

Still waiting on your answers.

[Alec900]

if Hopkins is top10 then Calzaghe must be top5 right?

btw what's up with all these hopkins threads lately?

[RubenSonny]

if Hopkins is top10 then Calzaghe must be top5 right?

btw what's up with all these hopkins threads lately?

In what world does that make sense?

[jrosales13]

if Hopkins is top10 then Calzaghe must be top5 right?

btw what's up with all these hopkins threads lately?

If B-Hop is top 10(which he's not) how would that make Cal top 5?

[hugh grant]

BH isnt top 10. I seriously think the reason why he is doing well at this age, is because his opponents expect to beat him easily and arent prepared as much as BH.
They think they can just blast BH out. If they prepared for BH, they would have done better i think. If they were afraid of BH it might have put them in better stead, instead of thinking hes past it at 40ish.

[Lead Cenobite]

BH isnt top 10. I seriously think the reason why he is doing well at this age, is because his opponents expect to beat him easily and arent prepared as much as BH.
They think they can just blast BH out. If they prepared for BH, they would have done better i think. If they were afraid of BH it might have put them in better stead, instead of thinking hes past it at 40ish.

More likely it's the sad technical decline of todays crop of fighters.

But understandablly you can't give Hopkins any credit.

I will say again: thread starter is insane and Hopkins belongs nowhere near any top 10 atg list.

[Alec900]

In what world does that make sense?

none,just for laugh and giggles