What current lightweight to super Welter could beat Pernell Whitaker

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So he suddenly old, because he supposed to humiliate young kid, but was beaten himself?

No, he was past-prime because he was clearly past-prime by that point in his career. It's just further testament to his Greatness that he could be so competetive and quite arguably win the fight.


Find someone knowledgeable who disagrees with that assessment, and good luck.

[Instinto]

****** comparison. 4 different fighters, people age differently.

Mayweather is closer to his prime now than Whitaker was then.

Go tell your excuses to somebody else. So P4P King Whitaker was old, semiretired, could've been beaten by kids, then why the hell he was regarded as the best boxer in the world????? I can accept age excuse if Hopkins loses to Pascal, but if you can be P4P#1 only if you are at your best.

[TOBYLEE1]

Yup, DLH just outworked Whitaker, who didn't do anything.

I thought that fight was going to be the change of the guards. It wasn't and I had Whitaker winning that fight

[Instinto]

No, he was past-prime because he was clearly past-prime by that point in his career. It's just further testament to his Greatness that he could be so competetive and quite arguably win the fight.


Find someone knowledgeable who disagrees with that assessment, and good luck.

So you are saying P4P #1, the best active boxer in the world, recognized by the most respected rankings, historians and experts, Whitaker was shot, washed-up and couldn't beat prospects????
Even if Martinez being P4P #1 at 38 would lose to prospect like Lemieux, that would be pretty embarasing.

[IronDanHamza]

Go tell your excuses to somebody else. So P4P King Whitaker was old, semiretired, could've been beaten by kids, then why the hell he was regarded as the best boxer in the world????? I can accept age excuse if Hopkins loses to Pascal, but if you can be P4P#1 only if you are at your best.

Roy Jones Jr was P4P #1 in 1997. No?

Regardless to that, Oscar was ranked higher than Whitaker P4P after his win over Chavez at Jr Welterweight and Whitakers poor showing Vs Riviera.

Did you not see Whitaker's 2 fights with Riviera and fight with Hurtado? 3 fights which showed Whitaker clearly was past his prime??? I guess not.

Whitaker was not in his prime when he fought Oscar. Clear as day.

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So you are saying P4P #1, the best active boxer in the world, recognized by the most respected rankings, historians and experts, Whitaker was shot, washed-up and couldn't beat prospects????
Even if Martinez being P4P #1 at 38 would lose to prospect like Lemieux, that would be pretty embarasing.

DLH was already way more than a prospect by that point (he'd held titles in 3 divisions) and way more than the average 24 year old in boxing. "Shot" and "washed-up" isn't what I said of Pete.


The bold isn't even a vaguely close analogy. Utterly ridiculous.

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We're talking to a guy who thinks DLH was a prospect in 1997.

[IronDanHamza]

We're talking to a guy who thinks DLH was a prospect in 1997.

Which is why age doesn't always determine much.

People tend to say that, I have heard it a few times on here, it's quite hilarious.

He was a 3 weight champion, fighting a long list of solid opposition, obviously in that same year he became a 4 division champion.

To say he was inexperienced against Whitaker is plain silly.

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Which is why age doesn't always determine much.

People tend to say that, I have heard it a few times on here, it's quite hilarious.

He was a 3 weight champion, fighting a long list of solid opposition, obviously in that same year he became a 4 division champion.

To say he was inexperienced against Whitaker is plain silly.

He was precocious and advanced of and just plain BETTER than the vast majority of fighters of that age.


If you're ready, you're ready, that's all there is to it.

[jrosales13]

Well if even 22 years old DLH beat prime Whitaker, who was P4P #1 at that time, why can't any solid WWs beat him?

So if 34 years old Mayweather loses to 24 years old Khan, then would you say Mayweather was too old?

OMFG, I can't believe there are posters this ******.

Instinto, you obviously don't know WTF you're talking about. So please don't give your opinion on the matter. Just sit back and read, do some research, and then give you opinion on the matter.