People get so caught up in the fact that Manny has thrown like 2300 punches combined in his last 2 fights and use this "work rate" thing to justify him beating great fighters (aka Floyd, Sweet Pea). It is literally just ignorant and shows a massive lack of boxing knowledge. The last time Manny faced an elite counter puncher/boxer in Marquez he threw right around 650 total punches (about the same amount he threw in the first Marquez fight as well). One of the biggest strengths of both Mayweather and Whitaker was their ability to minimize their opponents punch output using feints, jab, speed, counter punching, setting traps, etc etc. If Pac ever faces Mayweather or had ever gotten the chance to face Whitaker his punch output would literally get cut in half compared to his usual "punching bag" fights (Clottey, Margs, etc.) Pac would likely get off somewhere between 600 and 700 punches and would land with a staggering low percentage against either Whitaker or May. Name me an opponent of Mayweather's or Whitaker's who has ever thrown over over 1,000 punches. You simply cannot do that against that style of fighter.
What current lightweight to super Welter could beat Pernell Whitaker
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This. I don't think any have much of a chance, apart from Mayweather, to be honest. Even then, we've seen Whitaker in with great boxing styles. We haven't seen Mayweather in with anyone even similar to Sweet Pea or anyone as close to being skilled like him.....and if anyone says Judah....you should kill yourself.
Mayweather could trick Whitaker as much as be tricked. Pac doesn't really have a chance. People are just being ****s now about him. He would get pwned and look like a tool doing it.Comment
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Well I'm happy to bring U humor.But my opinion stands with me.Sweet Pea was great no doubt,but a 6-3 Punisher & this Martinez are indeed much bigger than a 5-6 Sweet Pea.As good as Sweet Pea was,Martinez has great handspeed & prime time power.The Punisher's reach is comparable with Ali & while he did sluff off against Quintana the 1st time,he murdered him the 2nd time.At 154 that's a tall order for any fighter of any era.I put Cotto in there because he's always done fairly well against pure boxers.But to be clear,I think Cotto has about a 40% chance of winning at 154 & the Punisher & Martinez about 50/50.
Williams is 6'1 man, I highly doubt anyone who is 6'3 has ever made the welterweight limit.Comment
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Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao beat him for sure.
Floyd will get a SD/UD because he will end up being the more accurate guy for the night.
Pacquiao because of his blitzkrieg offense. I used to think Whitaker would make a fool of him but the work rate is waaaaaaaaaaaay too fucking high to avoid everything. Whitaker wouldn't have time to fire **** off.
I also voted Saul because that is a fight I would LOVE to see. I don't think he wins for sure but I would LOVE to see them fight.

You've never seen Whitaker have you? It's funny, but you know ******s the moment you read their posts on these type of issues. Sadly, the more someone throws against a guy like Whitaker, the worse it is for them.
Pac especially, because of his commitment to offense would be in trouble every time he started. If you counter punch yourself and use that as your aggressive base, then it might work better because you are waiting on them as much as they are waiting on you.
Pac however doesn't fight like that and can't fight like that.Comment
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