Cotto will leave a greater legacy in the sport than Mayweather!

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Cotto fought tougher opponents. beat tougher opponents than FLoyd. if FLoyd wont fight anymore or cherrypick just to get paid from here on no one will recognize him as one of the ATG's. yeah he has skills, his defense is pretty solid but leaving a legacy means fighting the best and toughest opponents available Woulda could shoulda dont work in boxing. not because he is more skilled than the next guy its automatic win for him. skills dont always win. and its proven over and over and over..

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But all those guys STILL challenged themselves, even past it. Floyd ran from boxing at his best. It's not the same...

You're speaking as though getting the crap smacked out of you adds to your resume.

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Everyone who says Cotto has a better career then Mayweather are all basing this on the last few years of his career, sadly they need to do their homework.

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At first I was smiling at the title's possibility but when resumes were compared Cotto's were better. If Miguel had a loudmouth and a media sensation/hype he would have been ranked higher.

Correction....if Miguel was American.

US fighters get that promotion by default because they get that automatic-hype and stardom and I'll admit British fighters sometimes get it too (particularly with Sky Sports behind them).

However, fighters from nations like Argentina, Puerto Rico, South Africa etc have to earn it in the ring by winning over and over again and that's how Cotto made his way.

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However, fighters from nations like Argentina, Puerto Rico, South Africa etc have to earn it in the ring by winning over and over again and that's how Cotto made his way.

fixed it...

Puerto Rican boxers have a built in fanbase. they probably already have someone to replace juanma if he loses to gamboa...

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fixed it...

Puerto Rican boxers have a built in fanbase. they probably already have someone to replace juanma if he loses to gamboa...

fixing it,

there's a lot of outstanding PR boxers on the come up right now, we don't replace people homeboy....

[$Bullsfam$]

Back in reality,



Mayweather = Top 100 ATG in many estimations.


While Cotto's HOF chances are questioned here by boxing fans quite regularly.




Floyd's Legacy >>>>>>>>>> Cotto's. It's not even a question, really.

Your ****in ******. Cotto not a HOF? Your one of the biggest hypocrits on this site trying to call other people cotto fan boys or mayweather haters when your completely **** ridin' floyd and giving Cotto absolutely no credit whatsoever. So who's really bias? Nobody's ****in saying Cotto's the more talented fighter, but your getting all butthurt like they are taking it totally out of context. Please read the very bottom of this.

Mayweather's entire run at Welterweight will leave historians scratching their heads on his place in history. If he elects not to fight Pacman, his entire career will be overshadowed by the fact that he chose not to fight Pacquaio.

Scribes won't forget that in 2008, Floyd elected to retire instead of fighting Cotto, who alot of people thought would give Mayweather the most competitive fight he'll ever had. If Mayweather and Cotto fight at this moment, assuming he wins, it'll be his best win. The world will remember that he fought Baldomir over Margarito when Margarito was arguably the best fighter available.

Being called a coward by the media is not the best way to end a career.

If Cotto defeats Margarito, I think it'll be all that is necessary to surpass Mayweather, assuming he whimpers out of the sport and doesn't fight again, or takes another annual tune up.

Keeping in mind, Floyd doesn't really have a true, defining fight that people just go back and watch, just for the sake of watching a great fight, like a Cotto/Margarito. He does have the Gatti fight, but Gatti was just a sad shell and it was one sided.

I like Mayweather, think he's a supreme athlete and all. But in this day and age, its not about belts in a saturated field of divisions. Its about who you fight, and the competition you fought.

Very good points.

if mayweather had beat cotto, margarito , pacquiao and all these
others and still had a 0 loss record he could brag

but the fact is his '0' is questionable since it was achieved by
retiring instead of fighting these guys

if he beat all these guys and still had a 0 then he would be great

Notice that ****** punk just puts a smiley face instead of trying to debate this because it is undebatable. Nobody would be saying this ***** if Floyd had the balls to face Margarito & Cotto in 07-08 after Oscar. Both of them wanted Floyd but Floyd wanted neither of these 2 prime fighters so they had to rumble it out themselves and put on a classic. Where the **** was Floyd? Trying to convince chump ass Hatton to come up in weight for the easy win. Theres absolutely no excuse for taking a Hatton fight over Margarito or Cotto.

I don't think anybody with sense is arguing that Cotto is better than Floyd what they are saying and what is indisputable is that he has stood up and fought the more challenging opponents while Floyd with one or two (and only one or two) exceptions hasn't. - said exceptions being De La Hoya and arguably years and years ago Corrales (but I don't think that anyone doubts thats prime cotto beats prime Corrales) - same goes for Castillo (and the first fight I wouldn't even count as a win)

Argue with that all you want but Cotto standing up and fighting Pac beats ANY fighter on Floyd's resume end of. Cotto may have lost but he still has Pac on the CV which Floyd doesn't. Some people seem to think that ducking pac and saying if you did fight him you would win is greater than standing up and fighting him and losing. I don't.

So Cotto's only two losses are to a guy who probably cheated (so I dunno if I'd even count it) and to one of the greatest fighters in modern times. If Floyd grew a pair and stood up and also lost to Pac how would his resume compare to Cotto's then? answer = not favourably

Anyway I think other than the pac or martinez fights (which don't look like happening any time soon I think the mayweather fight that most would like to see is Cotto)

DING DING DING!!!! WE HAVE OURSELVES A WINNER!!!! This should have been end thread/

Your ****in ******, slow, borderline ******ed if you think Cotto is more talented then Floyd. NOBODY IS ****IN SAYING COTTO IS MORE TALENTED THEN FLOYD OR HAS BETTER SKILLS! And I'm sure anybody with any sense or any knowledge of boxing will admit Floyd's resume below Welterweight is > then Cotto's.

WELTERWEIGHT however is a different story. Cotto has obviously fought the tougher competition. He took on both prime Margarito & prime Pac. 2 things Floyd has YET to do. When he does them then we can all disregard and STFU about this thread especially if he wins.

You just can't deny the truth though. The top 5 welterweights of the last 5 years are Cotto, Margarito, Floyd, Pac, and Shane. They were all prime(although Shane towards the end of his). Tell me how once May 7th comes around with Shane-Pac FOUR OF THOSE TOP FIVE WELTERWEIGHTS WILL HAVE ALL FOUGHT EACH OTHER besides Floyd.

So how the **** you going to say Floyd has some great WELTERWEIGHT resume when decided to avoid #1 welterweight at the time Antonio Margarito before Shane ruined him, and #2 welterweight at the time of mid 07'-08 in Miguel Cotto? But then goes on to fight little ass Rickey Hatton who has barely done ***** at junior welterweight nevertheless be a "live fighter" against Mayweather.

That hurts his legacy ATLEAST until he fights Pac and wins. But if he loses it's a whole different story. He would have ducked prime Margarito & Cotto only to get beat by Pac so he better win.

ONCE AGAIN Everybody knows TALENT WISE Floyd is an ATG fighter with probably the best defense ever and his pre-welterweight resume is better then Cotto's but when it comes down to it at welterweight. Cotto has fought the tougher prime opposition and have given us amazing legendary fights. While Floyd has been foolin' the **** around.

You can't deny that. He just needs to fight Pac. Its that simple to cement his legacy as a top 50 fighter rather then top 100 if he doesn't. Pac wants the drug testing now, theirs no ****in reason this fight shouldn't get done by the end of the year. The fight vs Pac decides a lot where Floyd will stand at the end of his career when compared to the greatest fighters to ever do it. If he doesn't fight pac or Cotto then I think he stays at just top 100 but if he beats Pac then he definitely will go down as one of the best fighters to ever live.

He just can't not fight Pac especially after ducking prime Margarito & Cotto and be up there with Sugar Ray Leonard, Sugar Ray Robinson, Ali, Pernell, Louis, or Armstrong nevertheless have a higher rank then Pac, that'd be a ****in joke because Pac trashed both Cotto and Marg. FLOYD NEEDS THAT FIGHT.

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fixed it...

Puerto Rican boxers have a built in fanbase. they probably already have someone to replace juanma if he loses to gamboa...

Not too sure. Our prospects in my opinion, right now, are just prospects. I've not followed WV Jr, so I have no clue as to his real potential. We have some up and comers but its too early to tell if they will be stars.

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At this point. I would definitely remember Cotto's career over Floyds. Floyd needs a great career defining fight, which he hasn't given. based on his skill level.. The corrales', Judah's,.Baldomirs just don't cut it.

[Hallaqsillaq]

At this point. I would definitely remember Cotto's career over Floyds. Floyd needs a great fight, which he hasn't given.

Especially if he manages to win a rematch against Margarito.

It will be the fight to end the war, a classic. No matter their current stature, those two have unfinished business.