In Boxing, Which Nationality is most respected?

[ShoulderRoll]

And all this just because some people were picking Mexico as their nationality of choice on this thread.

Why don't you simply pick a nationality, Border Patrol, then STFU with your rants and let the thread take it's course?

[Delagz]

Mexico!!!! All day!!!

[BorderPatrol]

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and this is from your unbanned account, i bet the banned one was even worse.

You no life having son of a b*tch

33 post huh? I figure each post takes me less than a minute that'a whole 33 minutes per day spent debating 10 Mexicans. Damn, I am nice!!!!!

Admit it junior, you're a fan.

[ShoulderRoll]

Mexico!!!! All day!!!

You're going to make Border Patrol pop an aneurysm. You should have picked Puerto Rico instead, so that the little girl doesn't wet her diaper!

[BorderPatrol]

And all this just because some people were picking Mexico as their nationality of choice on this thread.

Why don't you simply pick a nationality, Border Patrol, then STFU with your rants and let the thread take it's course?

I speak the truth with regard to WHY it is that Mexicans TRY to be relentless in the ring. Please keep in mind that Mexico has quite a list of quitters. So let's not pretend Mexico knows no quit. Shyt, Ortiz is without a doubt the most ridiculous no mas in boxing history. Own it.

I went deeper and discussed the psychology involved in the mexican warrior and how much of it was due to FEAR itself. A weak man cannot think for himself and acts as a donkey plodding forward to his demise if only to be accepted as a "warrior." All this at the risk of serious personal injury. Who does this but a man that has no true self love.

Think bytches!!

All this teenage warrior shyt is corny already. We are talking about men who risk brain damage so that little pricks on BoxingScene, can say "wow."

[CubanGuyNYC]

Why in the hell would anyone say Cuba is the most respected nation in boxing. Cuba has never been relevant in boxing and still to this day really only has 6 or 7 fighters to look out for. How many great fighters can you name from Cuba? Cuba is on the rise but to say they are the most respected I have to call you out or whoever else who thinks that and ask why? What has Cuba done to prove to you that they should be more respected than nations like America and Mexico who have been at the top of the sport for 100 years or even countries like P.R., England, or Japan. Hell, Ghana should be more respected than Cuba. Cuba has sooooooo long to go.

As I stated in an earlier post, I consider the US the greatest boxing country and Mexico the most "respected". A few posters have mentioned Cuba. I don't agree, but I understand. Cuba's current reputation as a boxing nation is probably attributable to its long dominance in the amateurs, and its exportation of coaches.

That being said, your highlighted statement is absolutely wrong. No offense, but it shows ignorance of pro boxing history. Kid Chocolate was a Cuban boxer who enjoyed wild acclaim, in and out of the ring, as far back as the 1930s. Kid Gavilan was another Cuban who enjoyed similar accolades during the 1950s. Their celebrity is made all the more impressive by the fact that they were black Cubans in an age of terrible discrimination in the US. "Sugar" Ramos and Jose Napoles were great Cuban boxers that were forced to leave for Mexico after Fidel Castro took power. Their careers saw their heyday in the 1960s. All of these men are ATGs; in the case of Chocolate and Gavilan, absolute legends.

Now we have a few potential stars in Gamboa, Rigondeaux and Lara. Joel Casamayor might also be included with the current crop of Cubans, although he defected some time ago. "El Cepillo" can be argued to have had a HOF career, despite wasting many years in the Cuban system. So, it could be some time before Cubans regain past glory; but history confirms Cuba as a very respectable boxing nation.

[MonsieurGeorges]

Theres a lot of boxers from different countries all over the world but which country is most respected for their fighters?
I believe Mexico and my country Ireland.

Both of our fighters always seem to be respected for the heart, chin and determination.

do you mean which country has the most respect for their boxers? in that case I don't know but if you mean which country is most respected in the sport it is obviously the US. the mecca of the sport has long been the US, before that it was London. we also have the most world champions in the history of the sport. to this day if you want to be on top of the sport you have to be put through the paces here, nowhere else

[MonsieurGeorges]

As I stated in an earlier post, I consider the US the greatest boxing country and Mexico the most "respected". A few posters have mentioned Cuba. I don't agree, but I understand. Cuba's current reputation as a boxing nation is probably attributable to its long dominance in the amateurs, and its exportation of coaches.

That being said, your highlighted statement is absolutely wrong. No offense, but it shows ignorance of pro boxing history. Kid Chocolate was a Cuban boxer who enjoyed wild acclaim, in and out of the ring, as far back as the 1930s. Kid Gavilan was another Cuban who enjoyed similar accolades during the 1950s. Their celebrity is made all the more impressive by the fact that they were black Cubans in an age of terrible discrimination in the US. "Sugar" Ramos and Jose Napoles were great Cuban boxers that were forced to leave for Mexico after Fidel Castro took power. Their careers saw their heyday in the 1960s. All of these men are ATGs; in the case of Chocolate and Gavilan, absolute legends.

Now we have a few potential stars in Gamboa, Rigondeaux and Lara. Joel Casamayor might also be included with the current crop of Cubans, although he defected some time ago. "El Cepillo" can be argued to have had a HOF career, despite wasting many years in the Cuban system. So, it could be some time before Cubans regain past glory; but history confirms Cuba as a very respectable boxing nation.

Cuba has always had great amateurs, but not many had the talent or desire to be successful as a pro. think about the massive amount of guys training and then think about how few become successful with it. Is it true that even if you wanted to leave the amatuers and persue a world title the government wouldn't let you? I can't believe they would deny someone who has the talent to go make a fortune and give his whole family a better life.

[CubanGuyNYC]

Cuba has always had great amateurs, but not many had the talent or desire to be successful as a pro. think about the massive amount of guys training and then think about how few become successful with it. Is it true that even if you wanted to leave the amatuers and persue a world title the government wouldn't let you? I can't believe they would deny someone who has the talent to go make a fortune and give his whole family a better life.

I wonder how many people are in the dark about Cuba's political situation and, as far as boxing fans are concerned, how it affects its fighters.

Cuba is a communist dictatorship. People do not enjoy the same freedoms that they do in the US, for instance. Professional anything is not allowed in Cuba. It goes against the communist ideology. A young athlete can't just say,"I think I'll go pro!" If he were crazy enough to say that out loud, he'd probably be thrown in a political prison and his family would suffer some form of retribution. Since 1959 (!), the only Cuban athletes that've had success in the pros are the ones who fled the country. These men risked life and limb, not to mention the safety and well-being of the loved ones they left behind.

In the last couple of years, it appears that the Cuban government has started to lose its iron grip on its people. More athletes have started to get out. Relatively speaking, however, not many have made it. Of the ones that have, many are at or past their primes already, despite never having competed in the pros! Only when Cuba is free will we truly understand the potential of the Cuban athlete. If history is any indication, the potential is great.

[RubenSonny]

As I stated in an earlier post, I consider the US the greatest boxing country and Mexico the most "respected". A few posters have mentioned Cuba. I don't agree, but I understand. Cuba's current reputation as a boxing nation is probably attributable to its long dominance in the amateurs, and its exportation of coaches.

That being said, your highlighted statement is absolutely wrong. No offense, but it shows ignorance of pro boxing history. Kid Chocolate was a Cuban boxer who enjoyed wild acclaim, in and out of the ring, as far back as the 1930s. Kid Gavilan was another Cuban who enjoyed similar accolades during the 1950s. Their celebrity is made all the more impressive by the fact that they were black Cubans in an age of terrible discrimination in the US. "Sugar" Ramos and Jose Napoles were great Cuban boxers that were forced to leave for Mexico after Fidel Castro took power. Their careers saw their heyday in the 1960s. All of these men are ATGs; in the case of Chocolate and Gavilan, absolute legends.

Now we have a few potential stars in Gamboa, Rigondeaux and Lara. Joel Casamayor might also be included with the current crop of Cubans, although he defected some time ago. "El Cepillo" can be argued to have had a HOF career, despite wasting many years in the Cuban system. So, it could be some time before Cubans regain past glory; but history confirms Cuba as a very respectable boxing nation.

Other notables include Valdes, Kid Charol, Florentino Fernandez, Casa and Hurtardo, that guys post was pretty ignorant.

Edit: add to that Paret, Legra, Tunero and Luis Rodriguez (one of the finest welters of all time).