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  • spyvsspy
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    #91
    Originally posted by AnimalisticMeth
    There is no point on a Mosley rematch unlles he beats Pacquiao. I think Cotto next 4 fights will be Margarito in July, Chavez JR if he beats Zibik in December for the WBC Middleweight belt giving Cotto the chance to become the first Puerto Rican to win titles in 4 different divisions, then in june 2012 a unification bout vs either Cintron or Martinez the day before the PR day parade and then on November 2012 a rematch with Pacquiao if he wins the 3 previous fights.
    I don't see cotto in the game for that much longer. Two more fights and he retires.

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      #92
      Originally posted by TheMexHurricane
      Tony earned Pac not attacking in the 12th because he hurt Pac and could hurt him again. I didn't see the Diaz fight. Your logic is weird. Cotto gave Tony a better fight in the first half than in the second half but that don't mean anything. It's how the fight ends that matters-- especially in Tony's case because he gets stronger in the later rounds. Pac's fight vs Cotto ended with Pac overwhelming Cotto. Pac's fight with Tony ended with Pac giving Tony respect because Tony might hurt him again. Did Diaz hurt Pac and did Pac say afterwards that he was lucky to make it out of the fight? Did Diaz make it to the last round with Pac avoiding him to not get caught?
      Pac gave tony respect? I call it pity. Rounds 10-12 was the difference between margs busted face and marg dying in the ring. Pac felt sorry for the dumb bastard and let him live.

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        #93
        Originally posted by spyvsspy
        I don't see cotto in the game for that much longer. Two more fights and he retires.
        The money would be great but damn he wants to fight Pac again? I don't know man, the kid can get hurt.

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          #94
          Originally posted by TheMexHurricane
          Tony earned Pac not attacking in the 12th because he hurt Pac and could hurt him again. I didn't see the Diaz fight. Your logic is weird. Cotto gave Tony a better fight in the first half than in the second half but that don't mean anything. It's how the fight ends that matters-- especially in Tony's case because he gets stronger in the later rounds. Pac's fight vs Cotto ended with Pac overwhelming Cotto. Pac's fight with Tony ended with Pac giving Tony respect because Tony might hurt him again. Did Diaz hurt Pac and did Pac say afterwards that he was lucky to make it out of the fight? Did Diaz make it to the last round with Pac avoiding him to not get caught?
          jesus....are u biased much? pac was turning to the referee to stop the fight. what fight were u watching? tony hurt pac maybe once in the 6th and that was by pac's own admission, what else was he supposed to say? no margarito was a walkover thats why i handpicked him..(?)

          my logic is weird? panda's comparing two fighters facing similar opponents, cotto won 2-3 rounds and was on his way to win 4-5 but got knocked down. margarito didnt win a single round, he didnt even win a single minute of a round. if u feel differently feel free to point it out. the fight is on my pc and panda can review it right now. there were plenty of threads going around after they fought comparing his performance to cotto's against pac and u'd be hard pressed finding a non-mexican who felt he did better.

          thats my point...diaz didnt do **** and tony didnt do **** against pac yet pac gave them respect by saying they were his hardest fights to date. his hardest fights to date were erik morales I and both marquez fights

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            #95
            Originally posted by spyvsspy
            Pac gave tony respect? I call it pity. Rounds 10-12 was the difference between margs busted face and marg dying in the ring. Pac felt sorry for the dumb bastard and let him live.
            So says whatever your name is. I'll take what Pac said over your words if you don't mind though to gauge who gave him a tougher fight between Tony and Cotto. That would be the subject at hand.

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              #96
              Originally posted by -PANDA-
              jesus....are u biased much? pac was turning to the referee to stop the fight. what fight were u watching? tony hurt pac maybe once in the 6th and that was by pac's own admission, what else was he supposed to say? no margarito was a walkover thats why i handpicked him..(?)

              my logic is weird? panda's comparing two fighters facing similar opponents, cotto won 2-3 rounds and was on his way to win 4-5 but got knocked down. margarito didnt win a single round, he didnt even win a single minute of a round. if u feel differently feel free to point it out. the fight is on my pc and panda can review it right now. there were plenty of threads going around after they fought comparing his performance to cotto's against pac and u'd be hard pressed finding a non-mexican who felt he did better.

              thats my point...diaz didnt do **** and tony didnt do **** against pac yet pac gave them respect by saying they were his hardest fights to date. his hardest fights to date were erik morales I and both marquez fights
              Cotto won 2-3 rounds but got KO'd earlier than Tony? LOL!? Tony hurt Pac, Cotto never hurt him. Tony wins fights in spite of losing the earlier ones. And if Pac was hoping that the ref stopped the fight doesn't change the fact that his corner told him to stay away from him before the round started. The reason was because Tony is dangerous-- much more than Cotto. Gotta run!

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                #97
                Fuck a Pacquiao rematch. Have him fight Margarito, then Martinez. Cotto has already gotten huge paydays. Let others get their chance.

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by TheMexHurricane
                  Cotto won 2-3 rounds but got KO'd earlier than Tony? LOL!? Tony hurt Pac, Cotto never hurt him. Tony wins fights in spite of losing the earlier ones. And if Pac was hoping that the ref stopped the fight doesn't change the fact that his corner told him to stay away from him before the round started. The reason was because Tony is dangerous-- much more than Cotto. Gotta run!
                  he didnt hurt pac in the second round? it was actually very similar to the way margarito "hurt" pacquiao ... except pac's face was beaten up and he was bleeding from his ear, while aside from a few minor marks he was ok after he beat margarito
                  cotto got kayoed because pac went in for the kill and the ref stopped it...he never did so with tony. its ur assumption he thought tony would still be dangerous but that assumption isnt generally shared

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by el malo
                    if cotto beats cheato, bradley and jmm are screwed.
                    I always said that Manny will be fighting Margarito then Cotto II, before Arum will let Mayweather anywhere near him.

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                      #100
                      Originally posted by JDezi4
                      No Berto fight? Come Cotto. It is ur duty to pass the torch to the next generation. Not doing this will be the death of boxing. Thanks to Chavez passing it to De La Hoya, and De La Hoya passing it to Manny, the struggling sport is still alive.

                      Now, I do understand that it would be MANNY's duty to pass the torch to Berto, but if Berto can't beat Cotto, than what would be the point?

                      Fight him Cotto
                      Berto had his chance and out priced himself. Berto would want to be the draw that Cotto is. Besides Berto will not beat Cotto!!!
                      Originally posted by Iceta Lives
                      Yeah, tell me about it. Even with this war with Libia and sky high gas prices nothing would stop one of the biggest stans on here to travel across country to give Cotto a *******.

                      On the real. I think Martinez does look like an oppurtunist by trying to get in the ring with him and not fighting Pirog and all that. But what makes Cotto non fair game given that he beat somebody as big as Martinez in Mayorga? Oh I forgot. Cotto doesn't fight real champions, only goes after vacant belts. Unless you consider a guy who just lost to Wolak as a champion.
                      Originally posted by Iceta Lives
                      Were any of those guys ranked #1 in the division at the time he fought them? Thanks.
                      Cotto has fought the best in the divisions he has fought at the time he's ben there.
                      In terms of Ranking, Baldomir was a lineal champion a was not even close to the type of competition that Cotto has face or was facing when Baldomir was around, so ranking and titles in these eras mean just an excuse for those who like to discredit fighters they hate!!
                      Regarding Martinez, don't compare him to Mayorga, because Mayorga came down to 154... Martinez can't anymore. The fight might be made but at a catchweight after Cotto tries to follow his plans. Martinez for Cotto is kind of a plan B as Margarito II and Pacman will represent more money for Cotto.
                      If one or both of these fight fall apart then he might think of Martinez but not at 160. True that in the process he might lose and therefore never face Martinez, but he'll lose more facing Martinez and losing than facing Margo and Pacman and losing.
                      That, my dear friend only the peopl wh know abut boxing and it's business will clear;y understand. Those you are just pure haters won't!!!

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