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  • joelab75
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    #81
    Originally posted by GRUSTLER
    Pac has done more career wise but in the past two years Sergio Martinez trumps him on the performance/competition level and EVERYONE is seeing it more and more.
    whos EVERYONE? *****s and haters?

    Martinez best opponents career wise was Paul Williams and best win the last two years was Paul Williams. now you're telling me Sergio trumps Pac on competitive and performance level? Sergio lost to Williams too. so he had 3 wins 1 loss while Pac were all wins while losing probably 2-3 rounds combined in his last 6 fights. and you talking about PERFORMANCE? Martinez lost to 2 rounds against Dzinziruk!

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    • joelab75
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      #82
      you asking why I think YOU'RE hating? you spend time and energy trying to discredit Pac and his performance and his level of competition. while i dislike FLoyd, i dont hate him, i never spent lots of time and energy trying to make him look bum.

      And only *****s and Haters like you would say Pac was cherry picking opponents because i dont see Andre Berto in a P4P rankings. He is cherrypicking opponents right? and UNDEFEATED. He should have been up there with the best UNDEFEATED WORLD CHAMPION. or wait maybe Pac pay off those guys who rank him number 1? or MAYBE you just cant ADMIT that Pac is really DAMN GOOD!
      Last edited by joelab75; 03-15-2011, 02:55 AM.

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      • ronnie_N.
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        #83
        Originally posted by GRUSTLER
        Pac has done more career wise but in the past two years Sergio Martinez trumps him on the performance/competition level and everyone is seeing it more and more.
        past 2 years:

        martinez (career started at 147lbs)
        2/2009 = draw against cintron
        12/2009 = lost to williams
        4/2010 = UD against pavlik (won middleweight title)
        11/2010 = KO2 williams

        pacquiao (career started at 106lbs)
        5/2009 = KO2 hatton (won light welterweight title)
        11/2009 = TKO12 cotto (won welterweight title)
        3/2010 = UD clottey
        11/2010 = UD margarito (won super welterweight title)

        no, i don't see it....

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        • GRUSTLER
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          #84
          Originally posted by joelab75
          i dont have to ask Ring Magazine or ESPN. because Dzinziruk was not rank anywhere in any organization in world as a legit Middleweight. and ranked number 8 in junior middleweight.
          Maybe so but he was still an undefeated champion that was considered a good fighter by most insiders. The win over Sergei by Martinez is being praised and not frowned upon because regardless of what. It was a good win. That was my point over all.
          Last edited by GRUSTLER; 03-15-2011, 03:44 AM.

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          • JAS_JAS
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            #85
            SERGIO is trying to do an "Oscar Dela Hoya" "I want to fight the best and manny pacquiao is the best" <<<<< WTF!! manny is 2 divisions lower than you big guy, the difference between the two is 1. OSCAR is THE DRAW and can make DEMANDS for an opponent, 2. MANNY being a Lightweight then is NOT in his LIMIT weightclass wise, WELTERWEIGHT is his Limit and anything above that he is not that effective, some people are just total idiots...

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            • miron_lang
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              #86
              Originally posted by ronnie_N.
              past 2 years:

              martinez (career started at 147lbs)
              2/2009 = draw against cintron
              12/2009 = lost to williams
              4/2010 = UD against pavlik (won middleweight title)
              11/2010 = KO2 williams

              pacquiao (career started at 106lbs)
              5/2009 = KO2 hatton (won light welterweight title)
              11/2009 = TKO12 cotto (won welterweight title)
              3/2010 = UD clottey
              11/2010 = UD margarito (won super welterweight title)

              no, i don't see it....


              LOL

              Make this a new thread for the idiots to understand Ronnie

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              • ThePunchingBag
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                #87
                It would feel wrong to ask Pacquiao to give up so much in physical stature once again, but I actually have faith in Pac and think he can rise above it and pull out a W.

                With a good training camp and a genius gameplan from Roach, Pac can take Sergio the full 12 rds, or even pull out a TKO on cuts.

                It would be another fight on his resume that would again make his case for G.O.A.T.

                I say Pac makes the fight with Martinez at 154 or maybe a lb or 2 lower, then fights Mayweather to cap off an incredible career.

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                • GRUSTLER
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by ronnie_N.
                  past 2 years:

                  martinez (career started at 147lbs)
                  2/2009 = draw against cintron
                  12/2009 = lost to williams
                  4/2010 = UD against pavlik (won middleweight title)
                  11/2010 = KO2 williams

                  pacquiao (career started at 106lbs)
                  5/2009 = KO2 hatton (won light welterweight title)
                  11/2009 = TKO12 cotto (won welterweight title)
                  3/2010 = UD clottey
                  11/2010 = UD margarito (won super welterweight title)

                  no, i don't see it....
                  Ummm..... Ring Magazine said it not me. It's on my sig. You personally may think Pacquiao had a better run in the past two years but the sport doesn't agree and it's not me making that up to hate on Manny because win or lose. Martinez fought the better opponents.

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                  • GRUSTLER
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by JAS_JAS
                    SERGIO is trying to do an "Oscar Dela Hoya" "I want to fight the best and manny pacquiao is the best" <<<<< WTF!! manny is 2 divisions lower than you big guy, the difference between the two is 1. OSCAR is THE DRAW and can make DEMANDS for an opponent, 2. MANNY being a Lightweight then is NOT in his LIMIT weightclass wise, WELTERWEIGHT is his Limit and anything above that he is not that effective, some people are just total idiots...
                    I thought Manny was the best according to Pac fans? Martinez said he would fight Pac at 154 and put his middle weight title on the line. Pac may or may not be too lil but he held a belt there. Don't know why Pac fans keep screaming that Martinez is picking on Pac? Wasn't like Manny never fought there before right? Technically at 150 but he sure did get a 154 title (Martinez's belt). Next time they should just make catchweight belts for catchweight title fights if the fighter don't want to fight at the official weight.

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                    • Eastbay Giant
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                      #90
                      These Top Rank fanboys know that Martinez would murder Cotto, or make Pacquiao a full time politician if he gets his hands one one of them. That's where the hate comes from.

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