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  • R.M {7}
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    #61
    Originally posted by GRUSTLER
    I'll bet all my points with you on that if the fight ever happens. Pac would get KO'd.
    lol at fantasy points. Pac ****s Sergio pure and simple.

    Sergio will not have the power south of 154 and that movement around the ring will get cut off by that great Pac footwork.

    You high? Pac is known as the best fighter in the world for a reason.

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      #62
      Originally posted by Check_hooks
      So beating a nobody (driznkuirk) who is a 154 lber at 160 makes you P4P #1? Boxing scene writers are getting worse and worse everyday.

      Pacquiao won't go above 147 unless there is someone out there that is a bigger draw than he is. Is Martinez a bigger draw than Pacquiao? Lets see, Pacquiao's last fight sold 1.25 million PPV's. Martinez has never sold a single PPV in his entire career.

      Martinez is after a payday plain and simple. Even if that means calling out someone 2 weight classes lower than you which is the biggest b*tch move in boxing.
      Sorry non boxing fan but Sergei Dizinrul was highly ranked and very respected. Prior he never been down on the mat and Martinez floored him five times. Sorry again Pac fans because you can try to deny Martinez's opponents or claims to be the best but the sport of boxing is not. Now you are pulling the PPV card? Pathetic. I think Pac fans don't like Martinez calling Pac out because they know Pac won't fight him and is going to look silly not doing it after he already fought Margarito there and won Sergio's title. Not looking good for Manny, Pac fans. 2 weight classes? Martinez said he can still make 154. Didn't he weight 159 at the weigh in?

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        #63
        Originally posted by GRUSTLER
        Was it fair for Pac to make Cotto fight at 145 for Cotto's title? Eventhough Pac fought a bigger De La Hoya in the division prior? Was it fair for Pac to fight for Martinez's title (that he had to vacant) so Manny can fight Antonio Margartio (who was suspended and wasn't ranked)? Was it fair that Pac didn't fight Mosley after Shane beat Margarito EVEN at a catchweight of 142/143? Shane had Pac's 7th title if he wanted it (WBA) but he went for Cotto's title that he won vacantly from Jennings. When was the last time Pac beat a champion for his title (I give him Hatton) but since? I don't hate Pac at all. I just can see the truth and he has been carefully groomed and concocted to be the best. He hasn't fought anyone to warrant that as of recent. How can facts be hating? I bet you that you think BWAA, Ring Magazine, ESPN boxing and all the other publications who are starting to put Martinez over Pac are hating as well? Maybe if Pac didn't win a legit 154LB title at 150 catchweight, I would not expect him to fight there but he did. I guarantee everyone will hear it from now on that Martinez is dominating top fighters and Pac is not. how can I possibly be making this up out of hate when it is true?
        yes its fair. Cotto weighed 146 lbs against CLottey. had to lose just 1 more lb. to get the biggest payday of his career. whats wrong with 1 lb?
        Manny fought Hatton and clearly he was the smaller guy against Cotto.
        Pac fought Margarito but even before the fight team Pac said they will go back to 147 lbs because they already know Pac wouldnt even make the 150 lbs limit.

        they put Sergio above Pac because of the Dzinziruk fight? WTF u haters smoking? i want some of that. Dzinziruk wasnt even ranked in middleweight division. and ranked #8 in Jr. Middleweight. Dzinziruk is a bum with no movement, no power and a punching bag. so whats the truth about Dzinziruk being a TOP FIGHTER? not even a top fighter in his division.

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          #64
          Originally posted by R.M {7}
          lol at fantasy points. Pac ****s Sergio pure and simple.

          Sergio will not have the power south of 154 and that movement around the ring will get cut off by that great Pac footwork.

          You high? Pac is known as the best fighter in the world for a reason.
          WHAT? You are bugging. Sergio hit Cintron so hard at 154 dude thought he got head butted. This post is ridiculous. If Pac could beat Martinez, his team and his fans wouldn't be saying he is too small to compete. I'm not buying it.

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            #65
            Originally posted by GRUSTLER
            Ridiculous to even request a cathcweight for a P4P champion. Pac should have just given Martinez's 154 belt back that he won vacantly at a catchweight if he can't hang. Why win it, expect more on your legacy and then let some other soft touch, unranked fighters get a shot at it after you vacate it? Pac could have just fought there if he wasn't sure of the weight difference. Why go for a title there? To pad his legacy and boast about his so called "8tth title". I said it before and I'll say it again. Pac is a good fighter but is mostly hype these days.
            Yeah, like it was ridiculous for Chavez to request a catchweight against Sweet Pea. And they're much closer in size than Manny and Martinez are. ****ing goose

            And why did Whitaker go for a 154 belt to never defend it?

            Why did Leonard go for super middleweight and light heavyweight belts (on the same ****ing night!) if he wasn't going to fight at those weights?

            Why did Hearns go for a light heavy belt to never defend it?

            Why did Duran go for a middleweight title to never defend it?

            Why did Roy Jones win a heavy title to never defend it?


            These guys were all celebrated as the original multi-divisional champs, long before Pac. Pac is no more a hype job and has no more padded his legacy than them. Idiot

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              #66
              Originally posted by GRUSTLER
              WHAT? You are bugging. Sergio hit Cintron so hard at 154 dude thought he got head butted. This post is ridiculous. If Pac could beat Martinez, his team and his fans wouldn't be saying he is too small to compete. I'm not buying it.
              Well because he is too small. and will be giving up a lot of weight.

              Pac said after that Martines v Pwill fight that he is open and willing fight Martinez at below 150 and Roach wants that Martinez fight as well. Only Arum said no because at that weight class Manny would be giving up alott of weight at fight night and partially Pac because he knew he got hurt by Margo when he weighted at 160.

              You don't have to buy it former Floyd fan, you're use to fantasy fights anyway.

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                #67
                I don't get why people want to see a Middleweight fight a small welterweight.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by joelab75
                  yes its fair. Cotto weighed 146 lbs against CLottey. had to lose just 1 more lb. to get the biggest payday of his career. whats wrong with 1 lb?
                  Manny fought Hatton and clearly he was the smaller guy against Cotto.
                  Pac fought Margarito but even before the fight team Pac said they will go back to 147 lbs because they already know Pac wouldnt even make the 150 lbs limit.

                  they put Sergio above Pac because of the Dzinziruk fight? WTF u haters smoking? i want some of that. Dzinziruk wasnt even ranked in middleweight division. and ranked #8 in Jr. Middleweight. Dzinziruk is a bum with no movement, no power and a punching bag. so whats the truth about Dzinziruk being a TOP FIGHTER? not even a top fighter in his division.
                  What's wrong is that Cotto didn't want to defend his title at 145 at first but Bob, the WBO and Pac gooned him. How am I a hater when Ring Magazine, ESPN and now at boxingscene people are starting to consider putting Martinez over Pac in the P4P rankings? Just look at my sig and it says it all. Sergei was undefeated. That trumps Pac period. When has Pac fought someone who was an undefeated champion? Sergei defended his tile 6 times successfully before moving up for Martinez. When was the last time Pac fought a champion that looked good winning and was regarded as a good fighter? I'll wait.

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                    #69
                    Isn't Lyle (article writer) supposedly the biggest ***** / pac hater on boxingscene?

                    I remember this guy begging Floyd to go beat up on Pac a few days after he destroyed Cotto.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by R.M {7}
                      Well because he is too small. and will be giving up a lot of weight.

                      Pac said after that Martines v Pwill fight that he is open and willing fight Martinez at below 150 and Roach wants that Martinez fight as well. Only Arum said no because at that weight class Manny would be giving up alott of weight at fight night and partially Pac because he knew he got hurt by Margo when he weighted at 160.

                      You don't have to buy former Floyd fan, you're use to fantasy fights anyway.
                      Former Floyd fan? I am still a Floyd fan but he just ain't fighting and now Martinez is the top dog (rightfully so) he is what TRUE BOXING FANS are looking for in the sport today. Not surprised that you can't relate because Pac is the only guy you see on your radar. Bottomline is, if Pac was fighting the best, then Martinez wouldn't be getting the praise and starting to edge up on Pac in the rankings. It's not me hating, **** is the truth. He is too small? Then people got the nerve to say Floyd is scared of Pac when Floyd fought and won a legit, 154 title from the champion and when questioned about moving up to middle weight to fight Martinez (after he beat the #1 WW, Pac ducked MOSLEY) he didn't even hint about it being too much. Manny is a fraud and now it is coming out because if Pac was as great as his fans make him out to be, Martinez would not be getting the best of him in the sport. Considering Pac name is HUGE and Martinez is just doing his job. How can Martinez be #4 one minute, then nipping on Pac's heals at #1 the next? "Why are you hating on Manny" Pac fans are girlie and funny.
                      Last edited by GRUSTLER; 03-15-2011, 02:13 AM.

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