Comments Thread For: A Plea To Arum/DiBella: Get Pacquiao vs Martinez Done!

[joelab75]

It would feel wrong to ask Pacquiao to give up so much in physical stature once again, but I actually have faith in Pac and think he can rise above it and pull out a W.

With a good training camp and a genius gameplan from Roach, Pac can take Sergio the full 12 rds, or even pull out a TKO on cuts.

It would be another fight on his resume that would again make his case for G.O.A.T.

I say Pac makes the fight with Martinez at 154 or maybe a lb or 2 lower, then fights Mayweather to cap off an incredible career.

if and when it happens they still hate on Pac for not fighting Sergio on his best division or they would say who the hell Sergio beat? or what was Sergio's best win? a bum Paul Williams

im still against Pac fighting above 147 lbs. that is his limit.

[ThePunchingBag]

Ummm..... Ring Magazine said it not me. It's on my sig. You personally may think Pacquiao had a better run in the past two years but the sport doesn't agree and it's not me making that up to hate on Manny because win or lose. Martinez fought the better opponents.

Pavlik? Hell no.

Sergio's best win to date is the KO over Williams.

You can't honestly tell me that Pavlik was game after a long layoff and getting his ass beat by B.Hop.

His recent win against Dzinziruk is questionable. Also a guy with a long layoff and was relatively untested.

Every one of Pac's opponents were Top 5 WW or JWW at one point.

Martinez is good, but his resume comes nowhere close to Pac's.

[GRUSTLER]

whos EVERYONE? *****s and haters?

Martinez best opponents career wise was Paul Williams and best win the last two years was Paul Williams. now you're telling me Sergio trumps Pac on competitive and performance level? Sergio lost to Williams too. so he had 3 wins 1 loss while Pac were all wins while losing probably 2-3 rounds combined in his last 6 fights. and you talking about PERFORMANCE? Martinez lost to 2 rounds against Dzinziruk!

Joe, it is not me saying it but boxing analysts. Why are you and other Pac fans making it seem like I'm making this up? It is right there in my sig courtesy of "Ring Magazine" and "ESPN". Now Boxingscene is started to put Martinez up on a pedestal. Why do Pac fans think it is me hating on Pac? I'm just telling it like it is. According to you, if Pac was so much more impressive then Martinez, then how come Sergio got BWAA's fighter of the year for 2010? A year Manny was active and fighting?

[GRUSTLER]

Pavlik? Hell no.

Sergio's best win to date is the KO over Williams.

You can't honestly tell me that Pavlik was game after a long layoff and getting his ass beat by B.Hop.

His recent win against Dzinziruk is questionable. Also a guy with a long layoff and was relatively untested.

Every one of Pac's opponents were Top 5 WW or JWW at one point.

Martinez is good, but his resume comes nowhere close to Pac's.

Listen man, I'm not saying Martinez has an overall better resume than Pac but as of the recent couple of years he has. Everything is in writing on boxing websites and publications. Nothing going to stop them from putting Martinez higher than Pac if Martinez continues in this fashion. Paul Williams, Kelly Pavlik and Sergei Dzinzirul are all considered better opponents then Pac recent fights at the higher weights and that is a fact. It's not me or any other non Pac fan either saying this. It's in black and white from the sport itself.

[ThePunchingBag]

Joe, it is not me saying it but boxing analysts. Why are you and other Pac fans making it seem like I'm making this up? It is right there in my sig courtesy of "Ring Magazine" and "ESPN". Now Boxingscene is started to put Martinez up on a pedestal. Why do Pac fans think it is me hating on Pac? I'm just telling it like it is. According to you, if Pac was so much more impressive then Martinez, then how come Sergio got BWAA's fighter of the year for 2010? A year Manny was active and fighting?

Boxing analysts change their tune every damn fight. You need to think and post for yourself or your post is pointless to reply to.

Martinez justifiably won Fighter of the Year in 2010 because his KO of Williams was the most unexpected and notable event in Boxing that year.

Pac's wins over Clottey and Marg were not as spectacular as a round 2 KO of a young rising star in his prime. Anyone with a brain knows that and doesn't need to read it in a boxing magazine to know it as truth.

[GRUSTLER]

if and when it happens they still hate on Pac for not fighting Sergio on his best division or they would say who the hell Sergio beat? or what was Sergio's best win? a bum Paul Williams

im still against Pac fighting above 147 lbs. that is his limit.

I won't. If Manny did fight Martinez at 154 I would give him props for it. I always give props and respect where it is due.

[GRUSTLER]

Boxing analysts change their tune every damn fight. You need to think and post for yourself or your post is pointless to reply to.

Martinez justifiably won Fighter of the Year in 2010 because his KO of Williams was the most unexpected and notable event in Boxing that year.

Pac's wins over Clottey and Marg were not as spectacular as a round 2 KO of a young rising star in his prime. Anyone with a brain knows that and doesn't need to read it in a boxing magazine to know it as truth.

Now you are questioning boxing analyst (Ring Magazine/ESPN) because you don't agree with them? You need to think before you post because everything I'm posting is being backed up, while you are just using your personal opinion to make yourself seem right. The same Boxing analyst who you say change their minds all the time had Pac on a pedestal but now his reign is coming to an end and Martinez is getting the shine off of performances and competition alone. No huge name or endosrements. Says alot about him as a fighter.

[rfn109]

Illogical

Problem with Martinez is that he's picking fights south of his weight class. If he wants to stake a claim at Pacquiao's P4P ranking, he should fight Lucian Bute who's much more taller and bigger than him. Now if he rejects this match-up, then Pacquiao is right in saying no to Martinez.

Pacquiao fought at 143 lbs. in the welterweight class. Do you think he can move up to 154? What if Martinez goes down to 147, do you think that would be sensible? What would you say if Pacquiao choose to fight Chris John? Now that would be senseless, same as Pacquiao vs. Martinez.

[Soda_Popinski]

i don't think either Pac or Floyd should be making this fight...its ******...i don't understand why people would want to see these guys in the ring with a SERIOUSLY bigger opponent...

yes both Floyd and Pac have gone up to the 150's and won fights, but that is NOT where they are comfortable or most effective...its like expecting RJJ to have stayed a Heavy and fought both of the Klitchko's...just because he jumped up to heavy to fight an opponent that he knew he could beat doesn't mean he is going to stay and take on the rest of the division....same for Manny and Floyd, the idea of those guys campaigning at 154 is just plain ******...

I understand the draw in making the fight, but it just doesn't make sense because of the size differences...Martinez should just continue to fight the best at his weight...including a fight with Margs to avenge that loss...

[joelab75]

Joe, it is not me saying it but boxing analysts. Why are you and other Pac fans making it seem like I'm making this up? It is right there in my sig courtesy of "Ring Magazine" and "ESPN". Now Boxingscene is started to put Martinez up on a pedestal. Why do Pac fans think it is me hating on Pac? I'm just telling it like it is. According to you, if Pac was so much more impressive then Martinez, then how come Sergio got BWAA's fighter of the year for 2010? A year Manny was active and fighting?

Sergio's win against Williams was better than Manny's win against Clottey and Margarito because of the devastating knock out and Sergio lost the first fight. nobody was thinking that it would end up like that. so that really deserved a lot of credit. If Sergio had won the first fight and won the rematch he wouldnt be getting the award.

but to say Pac's performance is not in the level of Sergio was ABSURB. Pac was so impressive against 2 big guys that he made it look like an easy fight. try to read some articles from ESPN AND Ring Magazine about the fights. its how Pac beat those guys, he makes it look like so easy and in dominating fashion without losing any rounds.

if i would save all the quotes, write ups that Pac has been getting from boxing analyst, Ring Magazine, ESPN etc etc it would blow Sergio away.