Saul Alvarez vs Miguel cotto

[RIZO24]

You Puerto Rican's are relentless - almost as rabid as the Pinoy's.

Miguel Cotto has not had an impressive performance in years. He got destroyed by Antonio Margarito, got destroyed by Manny Pacquiao, and put on terrible performances against Yuri Foreman and just recently Ricardo Mayorga.

Face it, you nationalistic fanboys, Cotto is a stepping stone fighter. He is just enough of a name, and has fanboys like you who will watch him fight, and he's just enough of a draw to be put in against a guy like Alvarez and you guys won't know that it's a mismatch.

Canelo doesn't have good defense. He doesn't move his head. But he throws a lot of punches, and he hits very hard. Cotto on the other hand does not hit very hard, and he doesn't throw many punches at all. Yuri Foreman (who isn't very good and has no power) was outboxing Cotto and even on one leg, Cotto could not finish him off, just like he could not finish off 38 year old 3 pack a day alcoholic Mayorga even after Mayorga was so gassed that he was almost falling over just from throwing a punch.

That is your Puerto Rican idol. Miguel Cotto was just never that good to begin with, and I'm sorry if that offends you. I'm not saying it because he's Puerto Rican, as I have no bias and enjoy fighters of all races, religions, etc. It does not matter to me because I am a boxing fan. I will call a Mexican a bum when he's a bum and I'll call a Puerto Rican "not so good" when he's "not so good."

Put your flag aside and watch Cotto fight as a boxing fan and not a Puerto Rican and you will see what I'm talking about.

And Alvarez did beat the hell out of Hatton. Hatton had a wonderful performance in my view and isn't quite the bum that the commentators tried to make him out to believe, and he is not as bad as what people on boxingscene try to make it out to be.

Cotto can not deal with pressure fighters who throw a lot of punches, and Alvarez hits harder than anybody that's he's fought.

I like Cotto as a character, his persona is stone cold awesome but he is just not a top fighter, and despite his age, he is past it and when he goes up against elite fighters he will show how shot he is, as he did vs Pacquiao.

Being a huge Cotto fan now!! I have to agree with you on almost everything!! LMAO

[mellow_mood]

Please post your scorecard for Oscar De La Hoya vs Felix Trinidad.

why you want my postcard I can give you my decision right away..

On my scorecard Oscar Won.

my turn,

Did Felix sturm got robbed against Oscar?

[De la hoya 801]

Cotto is made for canelo he would try and box canelo but he has all the advantages canelo would put the pressure on cotto and give him a beating cotto is no good when the pressure is on it's either it gets stopped cuz of his face that swells and cuts easily or that glass chin he has would get him knocked out cold

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

I didnt say he would get whooped.. .I SAID.. he still beats canelo... what it means that even that cotto aint in his prime at this stage he can still beat canelo due to the circumstances. canelo is still in development and cotto is a veteran who have all the tools to dominate a green but getting better canelo if they fight right now.....

I am Mexican (if you couldn't tell) and I have to agree with my boy Mellow on this one, I think Canelo is big and strong and it would be a hell of a fight because both guys like to **** and like coming forward but at this stage I think Canelo is too green.

In the future I think it's a fight Canelo's people will like to make once Cotto ages a little. Cotto is a vet, a warrior that needs to be respected. I know he got KO'd by Marg but Marg is an animal and a bad matchup style wise for Cotto.

Canelo isn't ready for Cotto right now.

[mellow_mood]

I am Mexican (if you couldn't tell) and I have to agree with my boy Mellow on this one, I think Canelo is big and strong and it would be a hell of a fight because both guys like to **** and like coming forward but at this stage I think Canelo is too green.

In the future I think it's a fight Canelo's people will like to make once Cotto ages a little. Cotto is a vet, a warrior that needs to be respected. I know he got KO'd by Marg but Marg is an animal and a bad matchup style wise for Cotto.

Canelo isn't ready for Cotto right now.

as usual,

I take my hat off when it comes to your posts... wassup kid.. how's everything?

I really like canelo and If I was his manager i would just wait till the right time. Hes a gem... already with a following.. no need to rush him...

rushing a young fighter is a BIG MISTAKE maybe carlitos can ask vargas who if it wasnt for the mistake his team made, he could have end up been one of the greatest of mexico but he didnt because his managers didnt wanted to wait 2-3 years.

[CarlosG815]

why you want my postcard I can give you my decision right away..

On my scorecard Oscar Won.

my turn,

Did Felix sturm got robbed against Oscar?

Yes Sturm was a robbery, he was up by 2 to me. The difference is that it was a closer fight and harder to score, not a one sided boxing lesson like DLH did to Trinidad. Sturm was also his first fight at 160.

I am not making excuses I am simply make the point that we are talking about Trinidad/DLH at 147, which is arguably the best weight of each fighter, despite the classic matchups they both had at 154, and you are talking about a guy who started at 130 going up against a middleweight and still holding his own very well, and I could see how some cards may score in DLH's favor, much the same way many had DLH beating Mayweather, and one of the judges scoring the split decision in DLH's favor over Mayweather, me included, but it is also understandable how somebody could score it for Mayweather.

That is not the case with Trinidad/DLH. The only way you could score for Felix is if you do not know how to score a fight. He made it look easy and it was insanely clear how much better of a boxer DLH was, as he really did make it look easy to put on a clinic vs Trinidad.

[CarlosG815]

I am Mexican (if you couldn't tell) and I have to agree with my boy Mellow on this one, I think Canelo is big and strong and it would be a hell of a fight because both guys like to **** and like coming forward but at this stage I think Canelo is too green.

In the future I think it's a fight Canelo's people will like to make once Cotto ages a little. Cotto is a vet, a warrior that needs to be respected. I know he got KO'd by Marg but Marg is an animal and a bad matchup style wise for Cotto.

Canelo isn't ready for Cotto right now.

Canelo has been fighting since he was 10, professionally since 15 and has like 35 fights under his belt.

And your reasoning is that he is "too green" for Cotto? I did not want to see this fight, but all this Cotto hype is making me want to see it happen. I do believe that Canelo would hammer him worse than Margarito did.....

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

as usual,

I take my hat off when it comes to your posts... wassup kid.. how's everything?

I really like canelo and If I was his manager i would just wait till the right time. Hes a gem... already with a following.. no need to rush him...

rushing a young fighter is a BIG MISTAKE maybe carlitos can ask vargas who if it wasnt for the mistake his team made, he could have end up been one of the greatest of mexico but he didnt because his managers didnt wanted to wait 2-3 years.

Been good, you?

Yea but you have to remember where you are posting....LOL

People think that because Canelo is the WBC champ, he needs to be fighting Sergio Martinez next, we all know it's a BS title given to him by the most corrupt man in boxing Jose Suleiman.

They will take their time with Canelo and they should because he is only 20 and the kid has it all, good speed, power, chin, will and heart. He just needs to get better defensively and be more of a boxer but you know Mexicans like to fight...lol.

I think a good money making fight would be Canelo vs JCC Jr., that would be entertaining and bring in money.

[Pullcounter]

cotto would murk the ginger.

the ginger isn't a true mexican. not like marg or angulo.

[CarlosG815]

as usual,

I take my hat off when it comes to your posts... wassup kid.. how's everything?

I really like canelo and If I was his manager i would just wait till the right time. Hes a gem... already with a following.. no need to rush him...

rushing a young fighter is a BIG MISTAKE maybe carlitos can ask vargas who if it wasnt for the mistake his team made, he could have end up been one of the greatest of mexico but he didnt because his managers didnt wanted to wait 2-3 years.

I don't look at it that way. Vargas is like Cotto to me - good fighter, good name and easy to promote, but not good enough. No matter when Vargas fought Trinidad, he was not going to win because Trinidad was on another level, as was De La Hoya, as even with steroids Vargas was not able to beat him.

He just lacked that x factor that greats have, just like Cotto does. That is what separates the "greats" from "good fighters" and "contenders."