Prince Naseem: hall of fame!

[IronDanHamza]

Hamed did a hell of a lot for the lower weight classes and should be in the HOF.

A lot of people don't seem to appreciate that though and many seem to base his whole career on losing 8-4 on points to an ATG Barrera. Hamed is a "fraud" etc springs to mind..

People may have hated the ****iness and arrogrance but personally I loved it. Just pure excitement and drama every fight!

Definitely has a good enough resume to be in the HOF.

Agreed.

Shame he didn't continue after his loss and rack up some more good wins.

[cklmaced]

That's exactly what he's saying and he's correct.

Especially when you look at the people who are not...Makes it disgraceful.

You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. McGuigan beat Pedroza one of the best FW of all time who had made 19 title defences and was pretty much unbeatable at the time. A win that far outdoes anything Naz did who did Nas beat that was anywhere close to that level. Oh yeah he faced one other great Barrera and then retired clueless morons here shouldn't be allowed speak on topcs they know nothing about.

[IronDanHamza]

He said P4P which isn't outrageous but I do hate P4P fights.

Heavyweight Vs Featherweight? How can that even be measured?

****** comparison.

[pacquia0]

I have read some real abserd things on this forum. Some strange, and some outright moronic.

But Hamed KO'ing Lennox Lewis just takes the cake.

Insanity. The only possible explanation.

Like Ruben says in a P4P fight. Lewis's chin would not stand up to Hameds power. Hamed hits alot harder than Rahman and Mcall.

He wouldn't be able to accurately determine who was the stronger puncher for each pound they weighed, just think about it for a second.

Steward would be able to tell who hits harder relative to their weight class.

Do you disagree with ATG trainer Steward?

[RubenSonny]

You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. McGuigan beat Pedroza one of the best FW of all time who had made 19 title defences and was pretty much unbeatable at the time. A win that far outdoes anything Naz did who did Nas beat that was anywhere close to that level. Oh yeah he faced one other great Barrera and then retired clueless morons here shouldn't be allowed speak on topcs they know nothing about.

Resumes aren't built upon one great win, Pedroza was also on the slide aswell, Naz has solid wins and a strong featherweight run - neither should ever be described as ATGs.

[pacquia0]

You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. McGuigan beat Pedroza one of the best FW of all time who had made 19 title defences and was pretty much unbeatable at the time. A win that far outdoes anything Naz did who did Nas beat that was anywhere close to that level. Oh yeah he faced one other great Barrera and then retired clueless morons here shouldn't be allowed speak on topcs they know nothing about.

Thats about all McGuigan did. Hamed achieved alot more in his carrear and has the better resume.

Hamed would knock McGuigan spark out.

[RubenSonny]

Heavyweight Vs Featherweight? How can that even be measured?

****** comparison.

Which is why I hate P4P match-ups and I'd rarely indulge in that kind of debate.

Like Ruben says in a P4P fight. Lewis's chin would not stand up to Hameds power. Hamed hits alot harder than Rahman and Mcall.



Steward would be able to tell who hits harder relative to their weight class.

Do you disagree with ATG trainer Steward?

I wouldn't know since there isn't an accurate measure and for the record I probably disagree with most of the crap ATG trainer Steward says.

[cklmaced]

Resumes aren't built upon one great win, Pedroza was also on the slide aswell, Naz has solid wins and a strong featherweight run - neither should ever be described as ATGs.

He defended his title as well and only lost it cos he got dehydrated in a fight held outdoors in Vegas. A pretty ****** idea in the middle of the summer for an Irish man to fight under those conditions. McGuigan has a good resume too and beat better fighters than Naz did for the most part. The fact that Nas never fought again after that Barrera fight ( not including that one other random guy he faced) shows he didn't have the heart and desire that ATGs do after they lose a fight.

[cklmaced]

Thats about all McGuigan did. Hamed achieved alot more in his carrear and has the better resume.

Hamed would knock McGuigan spark out.

Kinda like how he knocked McCullough out is it?

[UmarImranKhalil]

Just for the record, lest anyone should underestimate Naseem's impact.

Forget America, where he was merely well-known. Hamed was an international crossover superstar. Global. Maybe some people don't appreciate or weren't aware of this.

That kind of transcendent impact is unprecedented for a small man out of boxing.


The dominant heavyweight who inspires awe with his boundless charisma (Ali) or with sudden and brutal finishes (Tyson) will always carry with him that ultimate mystique, that extra, world-conquering, 'baddest man on the planet' cache.
That has to be understood first. Then you can consider Hamed's feat in fairer (more proportionate) comparative terms; and that feat was creating a worldwide perception of himself as a giant, a breaker of men, propelling himself to global superstardom from the featherweight division, a division of small men. I'd strongly argue for that impact to be considered equivalent (or almost equivalent) to Tyson's.

If you were young when Nazzy was in his pomp, you'll remember how he captured imaginations and how huge of a presence he was. The kids and the man on the street didn't even think of him as a featherweight; he was simply a destroyer and his name was as reknowned as Tyson's and Ali's in the playgrounds.


Naseem Hamed is one of the biggest boxing brandnames of All-Time.