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  • Ray*
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    #31
    Originally posted by jrosales13
    That's exactly what he's saying and he's correct.

    Especially when you look at the people who are not...Makes it disgraceful.
    Thanks for bringing some sense and education to this thread, Amazing how much some people's knowledge really is.

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    • pacquia0
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      #32
      Originally posted by jrosales13
      When Hamed was in the first ballot, who else was with him on that list?

      I'm sorry does Hamed deserve to be in the HOF? Sure, more so than others that are in that's for sure. But, is he an ATG? Maybe ATG featherweight not an ATG fighter.

      So it's hard for me to believe he should be first ballot. But, that's also depending on who was in the ballot on his first time.

      For example this year. He was in there with Tyson, JCC, and Kostya. Only 3 can go in at a time. And, those 3 all deserve to be in more so than Hamed.

      But, if Hamed is in the ballot with the likes of Cotto, Gatti, and Chicanito. Then Hamed should get in before all those 3.

      You see what I'm saying.
      Hamed retired in 2002 so has been elgible since 2007 im guessing.

      Hamed is an ATG for sure. He is one of the hardest hitting fighters P4P. Better than Hearns and Lewis according to Manny Steward. He was the legit champ at featherweight maing 14 defences of his title. He beat numerous world champions and top contenders.

      Kostya is a HOFer but I disagree that hes better than Naz. Tszyu lost to far worse opposition and was stopped twice. P4P wise Naz is the far superior fighter.

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      • IronDanHamza
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        #33
        Originally posted by pacquia0
        Hamed retired in 2002 so has been elgible since 2007 im guessing.

        Hamed is an ATG for sure. He is one of the hardest hitting fighters P4P. Better than Hearns and Lewis according to Manny Steward. He was the legit champ at featherweight maing 14 defences of his title. He beat numerous world champions and top contenders.

        Kostya is a HOFer but I disagree that hes better than Naz. Tszyu lost to far worse opposition and was stopped twice. P4P wise Naz is the far superior fighter.
        Except he's not. Not even close.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
          Debatable.

          Im not saying either is greater. I think Naz did just as much at featherweight as Tyson did at HW. Including the cultural impact.
          Tyson is greater in that respect also.

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          • pacquia0
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            #35
            Originally posted by IronDanHamza
            Except he's not. Not even close.
            Manny Steward trained all 3 fighters.

            He knows best on the subject. Or do you know more than him?

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              #36
              Originally posted by pacquia0
              Manny Steward trained all 3 fighters.

              He knows best on the subject. Or do you know more than him?
              Firstly thats merely an opinion regardless.

              Secondly, he was clearly not thinking straight when he said this. Infact, when did he say this?

              There is no reasonable argument for Hamed being greater than Tommy Hearns or Lennox Lewis, none. Regardless to what their trainer said.

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                #37
                Originally posted by pacquia0
                Manny Steward trained all 3 fighters.

                He knows best on the subject. Or do you know more than him?
                It's not too difficult to tell who is a harder puncher in real terms but in a pound for pound sense its next to impossible, Steward would not be able to interpret it properly just with his senses, to think his word is an accurate measure is absurd, especially a guy who is known to play fast and loose with his 'honest opinions'.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by RubenSonny
                  Tyson is greater in that respect also.
                  Again, debatable. People have always been fascinated by the HWs regardless of Tyson. Naz was a prime reason for the smaller weights getting attention.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                    Firstly thats merely an opinion regardless.

                    Secondly, he was clearly not thinking straight when he said this. Infact, when did he say this?

                    There is no reasonable argument for Hamed being greater than Tommy Hearns or Lennox Lewis, none. Regardless to what their trainer said.
                    He meant a greater puncher.

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                    • RubenSonny
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                      Firstly thats merely an opinion regardless.

                      Secondly, he was clearly not thinking straight when he said this. Infact, when did he say this?

                      There is no reasonable argument for Hamed being greater than Tommy Hearns or Lennox Lewis, none. Regardless to what their trainer said.
                      I believe he was talking about P4P punching power because I'm sure I've heard this before where he said Hamed was greater than Mclellan aswell in that respect.

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