Canelo's Age Should no Longer be an Excuse.

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  • SCtrojansbaby
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    #131
    Originally posted by Bierstadt
    You may not appreciate my example, but here it goes.

    I'm walking down the street and see a beautiful woman who offers to sleep with me. Hardly any man would turn her down, so I agree. I get her pregnant that night and must now face the consequences. I had my fun, but will have to raise a child.

    The belt is that child for Canelo now. If he wasn't ready, don't accept the challenge. Simple as that. You may ask but who would turn it down? And that is irrelevant.

    Belts are a promotional tool nothing more.

    Here is an actual example, I have a company(we'll call it Canelo Inc), someone famous likes my product(we'll call them the WB Carter) they talk and write about it. Are they now a spokes person do I have to pay them, NO. They liked they wanted to promote it on there own.

    The WBC wanted to give Canelo there belt he doesn't bear any extra responsibility it was there choice.

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    • jai mari078
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      #132
      Originally posted by Bierstadt
      It is a promotional tool that we as fans must take back from the promoters and start holding its holders accountable for.





      Here comes the essence of this argument. Golden Boy will now label Canelo as a champion to sell tickets. He is no longer a prospect. You cannot have this double standard or use each term whenever it suits you.
      Ok well that was a bad choice of words. He is not a prospect but still a very young fighter that could possibly be something great, if he is not ruined the way Vargas was. Do you not agree with that?

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      • jai mari078
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        #133
        Originally posted by jrosales13
        I can only imagine if Canelo ever reaches P4P status...My goodness his fan base will be worse than Pac and Floyd combine.

        They're already are willing to give him all types of passes and have all types of excuses for him....

        Sigh...
        Here we go. The dude has barely started his career and people are already over dramatizing and HATING!!!!!!! Give the dude a chance before you pre-determine he is overhyped and won't live up to potential. I'm not saying he is gonna be the best Mexican fighter ever, he may not be. let's just wait and see.

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        • studentofthegam
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          #134
          Originally posted by jai mari078
          That is a ridiculous comparison. Alvarez is 20 yrs old and still in the early early stages of his career Berto should have stepped long ago and continues to fight nobody. He's also not 20, say what you want he needs to continue to step up the cpmpetiton but not be pushed to fast snd ruined like Vargas was.

          HATERS ARE GONNA HATE!!!!!!!!!
          Berto is further along in comp. Its the same formula Canelo is using. He will have to keep fighting smaller guys or take on a good prospect such as Kirkland. Lets get the bull**** out of the way and dont all of a sudden make Kirkland elite. Take that fight and show us how tough you are. Dont get tough with a guy you know you can bully.

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          • theplayerpimp
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            #135
            Originally posted by jai mari078
            Ok well that was a bad choice of words. He is not a prospect but still a very young fighter that could possibly be something great, if he is not ruined the way Vargas was. Do you not agree with that?
            no people want to see him fail bc of the hype he is geting. Golden boy need to takes his time with him and not rush him into fights but if he is goin to keep the belt he needs to fight top contenders but not elites bc he is a work in progress and would loose right now.

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              #136
              Originally posted by SCtrojansbaby
              Belts are a promotional tool nothing more.

              Here is an actual example, I have a company(we'll call it Canelo Inc), someone famous likes my product(we'll call them the WB Carter) they talk and write about it. Are they now a spokes person do I have to pay them, NO. They liked they wanted to promote it on there own.

              The WBC wanted to give Canelo there belt he doesn't bear any extra responsibility it was there choice.
              Not quite that simple, if you have a world title you are knowingly or not claiming to be the best in the world and should have to prove it against the best comp.

              If he doesn't want to do that yet then fine he should vacate until he is big enough to play in that sand box.

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              • theplayerpimp
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                #137
                Originally posted by studentofthegam
                Berto is further along in comp. Its the same formula Canelo is using. He will have to keep fighting smaller guys or take on a good prospect such as Kirkland. Lets get the bull**** out of the way and dont all of a sudden make Kirkland elite. Take that fight and show us how tough you are. Dont get tough with a guy you know you can bully.
                how is canelo taking his route when he barely won the tittle? Nobody knows who he is going to fight next yet people are bashing him like if he was going to fight some fking bum. The only thing i agree is that he needs to stop picking on smaller guys.

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                • theplayerpimp
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                  #138
                  Originally posted by Spray_resistant
                  Not quite that simple, if you have a world title you are knowingly or not claiming to be the best in the world and should have to prove it against the best comp.

                  If he doesn't want to do that yet then fine he should vacate until he is big enough to play in that sand box.
                  yeah like every tittle holder does this right? we dont even know who is next fight will be and yet people hate.

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                  • jai mari078
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                    #139
                    Originally posted by theplayerpimp
                    no people want to see him fail bc of the hype he is geting. Golden boy need to takes his time with him and not rush him into fights but if he is goin to keep the belt he needs to fight top contenders but not elites bc he is a work in progress and would loose right now.

                    At least you are objective and this is all I'm saying. It's not his fault he is being hyped. This is what HBO does, he's a young talented kid that has the public interest and MOST IMPORTANTLY SALES TICKETS!!!!!! I agree he can fight top contenders and not the Matthew Hatton's of the world, but he is not ready for the elites. That's al I'm saying.

                    You don't have to agree with me as long as you are able to be objective. Props to you.

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                      #140
                      Originally posted by theplayerpimp
                      yeah like every tittle holder does this right? we dont even know who is next fight will be and yet people hate.
                      They should and be held to the highest standard, you are right we don't know who he will fight next but it should be for the 1st time in his career a serious threat.

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