Canelo's Age Should no Longer be an Excuse.

[Bierstadt]

He didn't ask for the title shot, as Roy Jones pointed out. It was given to him, and why would you turn the opportunity to fight for a world tiltle. You don't. No fighter would, and if they say they would they are full of ****. He can't be blamed for acceoting a title shot.

He took the opportunity that was given to him. I think he sould continue to step up the competition, but regardless if people like it or not HE IS STILLONLY 20!!! He is not ready for the elite names of the divsion and just because certain people wanna see it, doesn't mean that's what needs to happen.

His people still need to be smart with him and not rush him along. That's exaxctly what ruined Vargas's career. He was pushed to fast to soon.

You may not appreciate my example, but here it goes.

I'm walking down the street and see a beautiful woman who offers to sleep with me. Hardly any man would turn her down, so I agree. I get her pregnant that night and must now face the consequences. I had my fun, but will have to raise a child.

The belt is that child for Canelo now. If he wasn't ready, don't accept the challenge. Simple as that. You may ask but who would turn it down? And that is irrelevant.

[jrosales13]

He didn't ask for the title shot, as Roy Jones pointed out. It was given to him, and why would you turn the opportunity to fight for a world tiltle. You don't. No fighter would, and if they say they would they are full of ****. He can't be blamed for acceoting a title shot.

He took the opportunity that was given to him. I think he sould continue to step up the competition, but regardless if people like it or not HE IS STILLONLY 20!!! He is not ready for the elite names of the divsion and just because certain people wanna see it, doesn't mean that's what needs to happen.

His people still need to be smart with him and not rush him along. That's exaxctly what ruined Vargas's career. He was pushed to fast to soon.

His team asked for it, which under Alvarez. How hard is that for people to understand?

He's a title holder and no longer a prospect. You guys keep believing he is. And, if he doesn't step up like a true title holder is suppose then you guys go ahead and give him that pass.

[Spray_resistant]

He didn't ask for the title shot, as Roy Jones pointed out. It was given to him, and why would you turn the opportunity to fight for a world tiltle. You don't. No fighter would, and if they say they would they are full of ****. He can't be blamed for acceoting a title shot.

He took the opportunity that was given to him. I think he sould continue to step up the competition, but regardless if people like it or not HE IS STILLONLY 20!!! He is not ready for the elite names of the divsion and just because certain people wanna see it, doesn't mean that's what needs to happen.

His people still need to be smart with him and not rush him along. That's exaxctly what ruined Vargas's career. He was pushed to fast to soon.

Now he has a title and him holding it at all is basically him claiming he is the best in the world in his weight class so now he has to be held to a higher standard regardless of age and should be fighting world class fighter from now on.

[jrosales13]

I can only imagine if Canelo ever reaches P4P status...My goodness his fan base will be worse than Pac and Floyd combine.

They're already are willing to give him all types of passes and have all types of excuses for him....

Sigh...

[jai mari078]

Exactly, but it looks like he'll be another Andre Berto sitting fat on the belt fighting bums on HBO.

That is a ridiculous comparison. Alvarez is 20 yrs old and still in the early early stages of his career Berto should have stepped long ago and continues to fight nobody. He's also not 20, say what you want he needs to continue to step up the cpmpetiton but not be pushed to fast snd ruined like Vargas was.

HATERS ARE GONNA HATE!!!!!!!!!

[Bierstadt]

A title is a promotional tool THAT IS IT. What is so hard to understand?



Technically that means nothing

It is a promotional tool that we as fans must take back from the promoters and start holding its holders accountable for.

People that wanna see him be pushed to fast to soon are just haters that wanna see him lose so they can say " I told you so". He already has all the mechanics and composure for his young age of a veteran fighter. Whty would his team push to fast and ruin him before he is ready. Yes step up the competition but he is not ready for the elite of the division yet.

If they play his carrer smart we could see the beginning of a young prospect turn into a great fighter.

Here comes the essence of this argument. Golden Boy will now label Canelo as a champion to sell tickets. He is no longer a prospect. You cannot have this double standard or use each term whenever it suits you.

[theplayerpimp]

OK sure, if you so man you win. I give up

Apparently you don't read or comprehend when I said that Moreno tried to get in the bantamweight tournament but a 5 man tournament would work.

But, whatever...

I mean you can compare title holder reign or first title also since it's Canelo first title reign.

Who has Kirkland beat at 154 to make him elite? And, how long ago was that?

But, OK man. This is my last reply...You win, I give up. Canelo is the man everybody else that you mention is whack I get it. Have a good one.

yeah your just a moron i read that and like i said moreno has been a tittle holder for a long long time yet has done **** to get big fights besides the tournament.
And who is saying canelo is the man on the contrary i have said he would loose to guys like cotto angulo kirkland at this stage of his career.
And kirkland has beat julio but not many others but if you ccant see the skills then you must be blind or ****** or maybe both.

[John Barron]

I can only imagine if Canelo ever reaches P4P status...My goodness his fan base will be worse than Pac and Floyd combine.

They're already are willing to give him all types of passes and have all types of excuses for him....

Sigh...

it was funny when max kellerman was pushing the question as if he was oblivious to the answer on why his mexican fans love him so much and how JMM and all their other champions failed to connect to such degree.

people and their inferiority complexes these days. blame the american media.

[jai mari078]

[QUOTE=Bierstadt;10193340]You may not appreciate my example, but here it goes.

I'm walking down the street and see a beautiful woman who offers to sleep with me. Hardly any man would turn her down, so I agree. I get her pregnant that night and must now face the consequences. I had my fun, but will have to raise a child.

The belt is that child for Canelo now. If he wasn't ready, don't accept the challenge. Simple as that. You may ask but who would turn it down? And that is irrelevant.[/QUOT


The point I am making is that YES he needs to step up the competition, but I think we all know he is not ready to see him fight the elite of the division.

How many division champions are atually fighting one another ad unifying belts? Not many.

I'm just saying I don't wanna see thins kid pushed to hard to fast and be ruined before we actually get an opportunity to see how good he can be. What is wrong with that? The people that wanna se him thrown into the fire right away are the HATERS that just wanna see him lose and say he was a hype job, which I don't beleive he is. I don't think he has fully lived up to the hype th this point but with time I think he will.

He has all tools, intangibles, and composure of a veteran fighter at a young age but still has things to learn ad I don't wanna see the guy ruined.

I wanna see him against elite competition because he may surprise a lot of people all I'm saying is it doesn't have to be tomorrow.

[SCtrojansbaby]

You may not appreciate my example, but here it goes.

I'm walking down the street and see a beautiful woman who offers to sleep with me. Hardly any man would turn her down, so I agree. I get her pregnant that night and must now face the consequences. I had my fun, but will have to raise a child.

The belt is that child for Canelo now. If he wasn't ready, don't accept the challenge. Simple as that. You may ask but who would turn it down? And that is irrelevant.

Belts are a promotional tool nothing more.

Here is an actual example, I have a company(we'll call it Canelo Inc), someone famous likes my product(we'll call them the WB Carter) they talk and write about it. Are they now a spokes person do I have to pay them, NO. They liked they wanted to promote it on there own.

The WBC wanted to give Canelo there belt he doesn't bear any extra responsibility it was there choice