How do you rate Joe Calzaghe's win over Roy Jones? Official Poll!

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  • DrewWoodside
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    #91
    Originally posted by Wan Long Pong
    Create a formula that links these two, Drew:


    Joe Calzaghe

    Personality
    I can't do it without involving an entirely different person. Joe Calzaghe has met Ricky Hatton a few times, Ricky Hatton has a personality.(though I know you don't like his very much) or uh.. Joe is the son of Enzo Calzaghe who has a personality. On that thought, Calzaghe could probably be viewed as having the exact opposite career path as Naseem Hamed.. And that's not necessarily an insult to either fighter.

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    • SirTomJones
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      #92
      on par with Hagler beating Hearns,

      Defining fight of our generation.

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      • Wan Long Pong
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        #93
        Originally posted by DrewWoodside
        What weight was Calzaghe going to fight Pavlik at? Look, you can't blame Moby for beating Lockett so bad Calzaghe had second thoughts.. Actually I think this is around the time when Cal was trying to work the RJJ fight.. If Calzaghe came in at a weight where he wasn't drained.. He was going to possibly stop Kelly.
        Not sure of the weight, Drew, all I know is that Zag started moving up to avoid the fearsome Moby. Someone in NSB told me.

        Zag's mobility and speed would have made it hilarious... the only thing that Moby can hit is the bottle.

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        • DIB42
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          #94
          Originally posted by IronDanHamza
          Anyone who sincerely voted for great or even good win should be permenantly banned from this website.
          Definately, this website would be alot better if we'd all just agree on one opinion for every fight and every fighter. Debate just ruins forums.

          I voted Good fight, but i also wanted to Vote meaningless. I think it was a good win and a meaningless fight.

          Before the fight, I was unsure who'd win. Jones had appeared to have slown down, but also wasn't exposed as "Shot" Calzaghe showed us he was, Danny Green confirmed it.

          The knockdown in the first round is also meaningless, hopkins dropped calzaghe early, I suspect Calzaghe was touchable in the first couple rounds, maybe he didn't warm up properly, or he was losing a step as well. I think Roy needed to capitalize early, and didn't.

          B-hop didn't either, because every little thing anyone does to Bernard seems to bother him. Which concerns me, I don't know if he just plays that up, or if somethings not right with him.

          Either way, Had Calzaghe let jones hit him a bunch in the later rounds, and made it look close, everyone would be calling the fight epic, and saying jones got robbed. But Joe embarassed jones, so the fight was a dud, an overmatched post prime payday.

          I think Joe held back, i think he could have gotten the fight stopped, but either a) let jones finish on his feet in some sort of weird i respect you, but i'm also going to showboat, cause thats my thing, (see hopkins fight) or b) Joe's hands are such crap that he couldn't deliever any power punches anymore.


          All in all, not a fight worthy of being revisited frequently.

          Good win, meaningless win though.
          Its a name on paper, but not a fight people will respect him for.

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          • DIB42
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            #95
            Joe can't get credit for wins. Jeff Lacey was the next tyson if everyone remembers, Joe exposed him, then all of a sudden, no credit for Joe cause lacey was a bum.

            there is no balance on these boards with Joe, he's either the greatest man to ever lace them up, or he's a euro bum that only fought easy competition.

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            • Cokezaghe_Loc
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              #96
              [IMG]http://ist1-1.filesor.com/***********.com/2/2/4/3/22438/r/P/c/n/rPcn/ug054df8.gif[/IMG]

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              • DrewWoodside
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                #97
                Originally posted by Wan Long Pong
                Not sure of the weight, Drew, all I know is that Zag started moving up to avoid the fearsome Moby. Someone in NSB told me.

                Zag's mobility and speed would have made it hilarious... the only thing that Moby can hit is the bottle.
                Assuming you're referring to a come forward 1D bottle.. Nothing to complex in flavor or recipee.
                Last edited by DrewWoodside; 02-25-2011, 04:13 PM.

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                • Wan Long Pong
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                  #98
                  Originally posted by DIB420
                  The knockdown in the first round is also meaningless, hopkins dropped calzaghe early, I suspect Calzaghe was touchable in the first couple rounds, maybe he didn't warm up properly, or he was losing a step as well.
                  I don't regard it the same as the Bore Hard one... Bore Hard scored a flash KD (helped by leaning into Slapsie) with an okay shot. With the Royston one then Slap looked like he was out for a second and was definitely hurt.

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                  • j.one
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                    #99
                    Jones putting him down in the first and refusing to go down was worth it, terrible win, Hopkins should have got a rematch but Jones did better than expected honestly.

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                      #100
                      Originally posted by DrewWoodside
                      I think that's very fair.. But several things stand out.

                      - You can give him an A on performance, but that could still equal an utter dud in terms of adding to his resume.

                      - Is that really the sort of fight to end your career on? It sort of suggests Calzaghe considered that bout memorable or note worthy..


                      - A shot to **** RJJ knocking him down in the first round is a real blemish on the performance, and if anything a possible indicator of how a more game RJJ could have delivered.
                      Uh, lots of fighters take on a no name soft touch in their last bout to easily secure a victory and ride off into the sunset.


                      So you're really saying Joe, who is nearly 40, needs to face a young, prime champion for his last fight?

                      Who does that?

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