Froch is a great example why resume is so important

[Clyde Barrow]

Resume is always important, it's the best way to judge a fighter. No one rates Froch based on skill because he has little of it. But the guy has gotten the job done in all but 1 fight, sloppy as he may look doing it. Just tell his bird to STFU already.

[MACAQUEINBLACK]

Guy is now trying to say that Berto is worth the purses he's currently earning against ESPN level opposition, just based on the signs of potential he showed very early on, way before he fought anyone of note. Berto looked like so much of a bankable star as to justify the astronomical purses and dates being laid on for him for hopeless fights, **** wasn't a total misfire at all, nobody made any ridiculously ****ty decisions there, everything was right on the money with that, okay. I give up.

Sad fact is that bent nose makes Froch look like a journeyman so the money men don't mix it with him.

PS He still has to fight Ward

Umar, have you seen Hatton's face? He makes Froch look like a matinee idol.


Come on, man, don't further this BS argument against Froch as a potential domestic star.







I'm out. Night.

[studentofthegam]

Guy is now trying to say that Berto is worth the purses he's currently earning against ESPN level opposition, just based on the signs of potential he showed very early on, way before he fought anyone of note. Berto looked like so much of a bankable star as to justify the astronomical purses and dates being laid on for him for hopeless fights, **** wasn't a total misfire at all, nobody made any ridiculously ****ty decisions there, everything was right on the money with that, okay. I give up.




Umar, have you seen Hatton's face? He makes Froch look like a matinee idol.


Come on, man, don't further this BS argument against Froch as a potential domestic star.







I'm out. Night.

I hope you wake up to this dummy. Berto was a better long run pick when he started with HBO than Froch was out of the gate. He's more naturally gifted and thats what gets you in the door. Froch is not that talented. He's a grunt but a successful grunt and that type of fighter has never been the most popular guy in the media. What the *** are you missing. Re wordin my **** dummy.

[IronDanHamza]

I hope you wake up to this dummy. Berto was a better long run pick when he started with HBO than Froch was out of the gate. He's more naturally gifted and thats what gets you in the door. Froch is not that talented. He's a grunt but a successful grunt and that type of fighter has never been the most popular guy in the media. What the *** are you missing. Re wordin my **** dummy.

Oh, your absolutely right with that one.

I mean Ricky Hatton? What an unsucessful fighter he was in the media.

[studentofthegam]

Oh, your absolutely right with that one.

I mean Ricky Hatton? What an unsucessful fighter he was in the media.

Oh God. dummy goes to sleep and dummy jr is back. We already dicussed Hatton actually having some talent and a better personality. You didnt speak on it then so why bring him up now. I tell you what. Give a list of Froch's talents that blow you away when you see him fight. Please. This will get entertaining then.

[IronDanHamza]

Oh God. dummy goes to sleep and dummy jr is back. We already dicussed Hatton actually having some talent and a better personality. You didnt speak on it then so why bring him up now. I tell you what. Give a list of Froch's talents that blow you away when you see him fight. Please. This will get entertaining then.

I'm dummy Jr? That's mature.

I'm actually not blown away by Carl Froch, if you read my orginial comment you will see it states I can't stand Carl Froch.

This is what I'm talking about, do you actually read your responses?

What did you get from any of my responses in this thread indicate a question to me of which of Froch's talents blow me away? I can't understand why you are asking for that. It has literally nothing to do with anything I have said.

I see your struggling to comprehend basic comprehension. But that's cool, we all saw you have some intrpretation issues with your 'Baldomir fights like Chavez' and 'Paul Williams fights like Tommy Hearns' comments.

But let's save that for a rainy day. Peace.

[MACAQUEINBLACK]

But that's cool, we all saw you have some intrpretation issues with your 'Baldomir fights like Chavez'

Please tell me he didn't even imply, let alone explicitly state, the bold.

LMFAO. Someone needs to study the gam more studiously.

I hope you wake up to this dummy. Berto was a better long run pick when he started with HBO than Froch was out of the gate. He's more naturally gifted and thats what gets you in the door. Froch is not that talented. He's a grunt but a successful grunt and that type of fighter has never been the most popular guy in the media. What the *** are you missing. Re wordin my **** dummy.

Only partly. It's about a marketable overall product that captures imaginations, as has been discussed in this thread. Berto has never really had huge potential in that regard, he's captured little (if any) of the US' public imagination even as much as HBO have tried to build him up.
And, FWIW, he's never even displayed the kind of elite, flagship-level talent you're trying to suggest; a bit of power and a bit of speed, but nothing you'd point at and identify as the potential next all-conquering Elite to justify the level of investment in his pampered ass.

The fact that Berto is so grossly overpaid for fighting relatively garbage opposition on so many coveted dates he doesn't deserve owes to the political setup at HBO, it's certainly not because he's possessed of some sublime level of talent that warranted the level of indulgence meted out to one fighter with little marketable appeal.

You can't tell me that whatever potential folk saw in Berto way back before he'd done anything was a worthier investment than Froch on the brink of world-title recognition; you're a moron if you maintain that argument. Besides which, Froch *had been* an upcoming talent in UK boxing for years; and whatever you may think that says about the depth of the UK's talent-pool, it doesn't make that statement any less true - there *were* Championship expectations of Froch in UK boxing circles and, by the time he('d) fought Pascal, it was certainly worth investing in.


Way to save the invective 'til a guy hits the hay, too, you cheapshotting ****.

Oh God. dummy goes to sleep and dummy jr is back. We already dicussed Hatton actually having some talent and a better personality. You didnt speak on it then so why bring him up now. I tell you what. Give a list of Froch's talents that blow you away when you see him fight. Please. This will get entertaining then.

And, once again, the assertion that Hatton is that dynamically better of a fighter than Froch is highly arguable at best.

'Better' personality? You could argue it, but that's not to say Froch's personality isn't fan-friendly or won't appeal to the public; again, you can be a sizeable star in the UK without being Ricky Hatton huge. Cf. Khan and Haye; if you think Froch couldn't be as big as those two, you're simply wrong.

[IronDanHamza]

Please tell me he didn't even imply, let alone explicitly state, the bold.

LMFAO. Someone needs to study the gam more studiously.

Sadly, It's all true.

if you think Froch couldn't be as big as those two, you're simply wrong.

This statement should conclude the entire argument. There is really nothing to argue, its all black and white. I'm still confused how this has progressed to what it has for something so simple.

But I guess your the dummy and I'm dummy Jr, of course. lol

[TOBYLEE1]

Froch has a very good resume. He is a fighter that is always trying to prove that he is the best in the division and always will go after the challenge.

The only fight he has dominated was the AA fight, all his other fights were close so he looks beatable so he is a risk to sign for big money. So far he has proven alot of ppl wrong.

He has a very underated jab and knows really how to fight within his abilities. He is fun to watch cause of his leaky defense and he has very heavy hands. He has won me over since the JT fight. Even when he was comming up in the rankings he fought better fighters than most other fighters with the amount of fights he has