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  • Dirk Diggler UK
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    #131
    Originally posted by studentofthegam
    That being said, did you ever think you are a rare breed and it would benefit Sky to put time and money into a guy with limited potential fan base. That may be the way they see it. I dont see them shutting out Froch if they thought he had revenue potential. Maybe I am in the dark. Did he bad mouth them or something.
    That'll be why they've been desperately trying to sign him recently then?

    Why are you still talking? Your finger is clearly nowhere near the pulse.

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      #132
      Originally posted by studentofthegam
      That being said, did you ever think you are a rare breed and it would benefit Sky to put time and money into a guy with limited potential fan base. That may be the way they see it. I dont see them shutting out Froch if they thought he had revenue potential. Maybe I am in the dark. Did he bad mouth them or something.
      So, you don't see, sayy, HBO messing up because of incompetence and a general lack of a finger on the pulse of boxing right now over where you are?


      Man, sometimes they just mess up for any number of factors. Shortsightedness, not having a clue, whatever, but they mess up. Star potential can be realized and it can also be lost.

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        #133
        Originally posted by Pullcounter
        froch > cokezaghe.
        froch resume ****s on joe

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        • studentofthegam
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          #134
          Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
          That'll be why they've been desperately trying to sign him recently then?

          Why are you still talking? Your finger is clearly nowhere near the pulse.
          I said that may be the way they see it. Yeah it makes since to sign him at this point because maybe they didnt see anything that warranted it before he got to the semi's of the Super six. Like I said earlier, In the court of popular opinion its not news if Froch loses. It is back page news even when he wins. Who wants to invest in that unless he conquers something huge. He's got a slim chance to change that with this tourney. If he doesnt win this Super Six(Even if he fights well) it wont be long before we have a similar conversation again.

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            #135
            Originally posted by MACAQUEINBLACK
            So, you don't see, sayy, HBO messing up because of incompetence and a general lack of a finger on the pulse of boxing right now over where you are?


            Man, sometimes they just mess up for any number of factors. Shortsightedness, not having a clue, whatever, but they mess up. Star potential can be realized and it can also be lost.
            HBO usually makes their mistakes after the contract is signed.

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              #136
              simply a badass.
              Last edited by cleaner147; 02-22-2011, 08:57 PM.

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                #137
                Sad fact is that bent nose makes Froch look like a journeyman so the money men don't mix it with him.

                PS He still has to fight Ward

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                  #138
                  Originally posted by studentofthegam
                  HBO usually makes their mistakes after the contract is signed.
                  just when i think they can't get any dumber. hbo go and pull off this chavez jr-zbik fight and totally redeem themselves!

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                    #139
                    Originally posted by studentofthegam
                    I said that may be the way they see it. Yeah it makes since to sign him at this point because maybe they didnt see anything that warranted it before he got to the semi's of the Super six.
                    Their mistake. And it didn't take a Nostradamus to see that Froch was worth investing in.


                    Originally posted by studentofthegam
                    Like I said earlier, In the court of popular opinion its not news if Froch loses. It is back page news even when he wins.
                    In order to be big-time 'news', he'd need some form of big-time backing. This is the whole issue we're talking about here.


                    Originally posted by studentofthegam
                    Who wants to invest in that unless he conquers something huge.
                    There are plenty of guys being invested in before they did anything huge; not just in the UK, but all over boxing. HELLO? Look at the way Berto is getting paid and rampantly handed desirable HBO dates, in a fashion widely disproportionate to his actual revenue and star potential. That's because somebody ****ed up, LMAO. Just as somebody else ****ed up when they failed to get their company onto Froch's wagon early, because the potential was clearly there and they simply missed it.


                    Originally posted by studentofthegam
                    If he doesnt win this Super Six(Even if he fights well) it wont be long before we have a similar conversation again.
                    If he's covered and the fights follow in that typical Frochian trait of edge-of-the-seat rollercoaster action, it won't hurt him at all, win or lose.

                    The doubt over his potential for stardom at this stage centers on how many fights he has left at this level. If Sky had put weight behind him 2 years ago, he would be a BIG domestic name by now. No doubt at all.





                    Originally posted by studentofthegam
                    HBO usually makes their mistakes after the contract is signed.
                    Huh.




                    Anyway, what I know is, the non-boxing fan guests in my home who watched Froch-Pascal with me on a night in December 2008 were by turns out of their seats or pounding the arms of them in excitement for 45 minutes. One of them told me it was the most exciting boxing match they'd ever seen; not being initiated boxing fans, they hadn't seen many fights, but, of the ones they'd seen, Froch's fight had stood out and gripped them the most and they found him compelling as a character. Didn't hurt that he had a dance-partner who was willing to go all the way with him, but Froch was the magnet of their focus.

                    That's the kind of potential I'm referencing here, and had it been sensed and capitalized on back then Froch would be a domestic STAR right now.




                    stude, you're just going around in circles here and refusing any logic, so I'll bid you goodnight. Appreciate the chat, man, anytime.

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                    • studentofthegam
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                      #140
                      Originally posted by MACAQUEINBLACK
                      Their mistake. And it didn't take a Nostradamus to see that Froch was worth investing in.

                      There are plenty of guys being invested in before they did anything huge; not just in the UK, but all over boxing. HELLO? Look at the way Berto is getting paid and rampantly handed desirable HBO dates, in a fashion widely disproportionate to his actual revenue and star potential. That's because somebody ****ed up, LMAO. Just as somebody else ****ed up when they failed to get their company onto Froch's wagon early, because the potential was clearly there and they simply missed it.
                      Well what I can say in comparing the two is that on sight Berto looked very promising and dynamic. Which he still has the chance to live up to. Froch didnt have that. Yes Froch finds a way to win, Kudos for that. But he doesnt have the extras people look for in a boxing celeb in or out of the ring.

                      Originally posted by daggum
                      just when i think they can't get any dumber. hbo go and pull off this chavez jr-zbik fight and totally redeem themselves!
                      Theres no denying that the *** up on the regular. But they always give themselves a chance by scooping all the top talent in the biggest divisions.

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