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  • #11
    Originally posted by -MAKAVELLI- View Post
    the best part about Bantams: none of them are getting Andre Berto paydays



    avoidance might not be an option...there is a payday named Nonito Donaire and there are showdowns to be made
    He's not worth risking life and limb for. I keep thinking back to Donaire's comments he made post-fight in his last couple fights before this one...he wasn't lying. He was just testing himself in there, trying things out, exploring. That left...wow. Fistic genius. I'd rather take a few mid-level paydays and secure my future (and health) then blow it on one big shot against a Donaire. I'm just being real.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
      He's not worth risking life and limb for. I keep thinking back to Donaire's comments he made post-fight in his last couple fights before this one...he wasn't lying. He was just testing himself in there, trying things out, exploring. That left...wow. Fistic genius. I'd rather take a few mid-level paydays and secure my future (and health) then blow it on one big shot against a Donaire. I'm just being real.
      Montiel got reckless. He went at Donaire with all he had and forgot to play defense along the way. I think he'd do a lot better in the rematch, but now its not certain if he'll get one and if he'll want one in the first place. I think Vic has the best chance to beat Donaire out of all bantams. Why? Because he already fought him and knows him better than Agbeko, Moreno, Mares or Perez. And because he's a good enough boxer to take him on, with tons of heart. And his power at this weight is underrated, he knocked down Mares after all.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
        He's not worth risking life and limb for. I keep thinking back to Donaire's comments he made post-fight in his last couple fights before this one...he wasn't lying. He was just testing himself in there, trying things out, exploring. That left...wow. Fistic genius. I'd rather take a few mid-level paydays and secure my future (and health) then blow it on one big shot against a Donaire. I'm just being real.


        so you think the chances of the Agbeko/Mares winner might duck Nonito is pretty high?

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Pastrano View Post
          Montiel got reckless. He went at Donaire with all he had and forgot to play defense along the way. I think he'd do a lot better in the rematch, but now its not certain if he'll get one and if he'll want one in the first place. I think Vic has the best chance to beat Donaire out of all bantams. Why? Because he already fought him and knows him better than Agbeko, Moreno, Mares or Perez. And because he's a good enough boxer to take him on, with tons of heart. And his power at this weight is underrated, he knocked down Mares after all.


          same with Donaire...you dont think having fought Vic already plays to his benefit as well?


          the more cerebral of the two is Donaire and IMO, he takes Vic out again...perhaps earlier than last

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          • #15
            Originally posted by -MAKAVELLI- View Post
            same with Donaire...you dont think having fought Vic already plays to his benefit as well?


            the more cerebral of the two is Donaire and IMO, he takes Vic out again...perhaps earlier than last
            I think Vic won't allow himself to lunge in like Montiel did. He'll be defensive for the first half of the fight, then he'll try and score with combinations. He won't try to knock out Nonito with a single punch, thats for sure!

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            • #16
              I think out of them all, Agbeko would give Donaire the most trouble. He's deceptively fast and he fights good at range and if they fought, I think it would probably go the distance, but I'd have Donaire eventually gaining a level of dominance on him to an extent.

              I think Donaire would thump Mares and I think Agbeko is going to beat Mares as well (I do like Mares though.

              I think Donaire would box circles around Perez.

              And I really like Moreno, but I think Donaire's style is really bad for him. He could at least hang with Moreno at range (and I'd expect him to be better), he'd be faster and he'd offer the big punch threat. I think that with the exception of defense, everything Moreno does, Donaire does better.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Pastrano View Post
                Montiel got reckless. He went at Donaire with all he had and forgot to play defense along the way. I think he'd do a lot better in the rematch, but now its not certain if he'll get one and if he'll want one in the first place. I think Vic has the best chance to beat Donaire out of all bantams. Why? Because he already fought him and knows him better than Agbeko, Moreno, Mares or Perez. And because he's a good enough boxer to take him on, with tons of heart. And his power at this weight is underrated, he knocked down Mares after all.
                I really cringe at the thought of what would happen to Vic in a rematch.

                Donaire is an even better fighter now then he was when he KO'd him the first time while Vic, honestly he's on the downside of his career.

                Vic would get hurt.

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                • #18
                  i think Mares or Agbeko would be the most viable candidates to challenge Donaire

                  from what i have seen of Mares he is a warrior with a pretty good chin, he's young and strong, keeps the pressure on and can box well also

                  Agbeko has a solid chin aswell and he really impressed me the way he boxed against Perez but i haven't seen enough of him to know how often he looks that good

                  Donaire's speed and power are gonna be serious problems for anyone though

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Pastrano View Post
                    I think Vic won't allow himself to lunge in like Montiel did. He'll be defensive for the first half of the fight, then he'll try and score with combinations. He won't try to knock out Nonito with a single punch, thats for sure!

                    After that KO that Donaire gave Vic he did not want a rematch then, why is he going to change his mind now?

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by -MAKAVELLI- View Post
                      so you think the chances of the Agbeko/Mares winner might duck Nonito is pretty high?
                      No, I don't think they're that intelligent

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