How you beat Pac and Mayweather....

[Walt Liquor]

pac's best chance to beat floyd (but not the only way he can) is to land somethign big from the outside and swarm him to a stoppage. it can happen.

[The Gambler1981]

i dont agree with the outside necessarily.

I have no idea what the italics means. floyd gets a mental edge from what?

I don't think floyd wants it as bad anymore, advantage Pac. Floyd has no mental edge this fight.

Manny at his range has the advantage, it is in the middle yet it can be outside if Floyd isn't careful with his distance. Manny keeps the fight there his prospects are very good.

To me outside is all the way out so Manny has to come through Floyd's shots which are longer thus nullifying what speed advantage there is.

There is no mental edge before hand, that only occurs over the course of the fight if you have options that is always a mental boost especially a guy like Floyd that thinks he is better.

[daggum]

as emmanual steward said in the 2nd pac-marquz fight "you can't outbox pac, you are gonna have to fight him" mayweather got pinned against the ropes against a faded delahoya who doesn't know the first thing about being a pressure fighter. how the hell is he gonna outbox pac now? pac's got work rate, crazy angles, and he's a southpaw? no thank you! it's better to stay safe.

[Walt Liquor]

Floyd can frustrate his opponents to the point where they start to hold back and no amount of pleading from the corner to "let your hands go" helps.

a few people are going a bit overboard in this thread.

manny isn't shane. manny isn't anyone floyd ever fought. not even close

[$tate of Mind]

a few people are going a bit overboard in this thread.

manny isn't shane. manny isn't anyone floyd ever fought. not even close

And Floyd isn't anyone Manny has ever fought not even close. When's the last time Manny fought somebody with any semblance of head movement or defense?

[$tate of Mind]

pac will beat floyd...................

Nice analysis.......

[jtiger78]

corrales is a puncher, not a pressure fighter.

Hatton is a hold-n-hit fighter like ward, not a pressure fighter.

what about emanuel augustus? Is that pressure?

[The Gambler1981]

Manny is going to force Floyd to fight for sure, Manny is going to land above average against Floyd but is that really enough if Floyd fights the way he is capable of. How far above average is Manny going to get?

There is also the possibility that Floyd forced to fight is a dangerous man also.

[Walt Liquor]

Manny at his range has the advantage, it is in the middle yet it can be outside if Floyd isn't careful with his distance. Manny keeps the fight there his prospects are very good.

To me outside is all the way out so Manny has to come through Floyd's shots which are longer thus nullifying what speed advantage there is.

There is no mental edge before hand, that only occurs over the course of the fight if you have options that is always a mental boost especially a guy like Floyd that thinks he is better.

um, i,m pretty sure manny think he's better too.

[Walt Liquor]

And Floyd isn't anyone Manny has ever fought not even close. When's the last time Manny fought somebody with any semblance of head movement or defense?

ok, thanks for jumping in.


have you read anything else i wrote or are you jumping in the middle of the convo?


in answer to your question, probabl jmm.