Comments Thread For: Larry Merchant on The State of Mayweather vs. Pacquiao

[StrangerInTown]

I garruntee if Pacquiao gets by Mosley in dominating fashion (and I assure you he will), he would be favored to beat Mayweather if they were to fight sometime in the next year or so. Manny will knock Floyd out in the fight, Floyd's scared

Floyd simply has run out of places to run. If he does a little time with O.J. the jig is up, period. That is not out of the question, but probation is still the safer wager.
I have no doubt that the very active Pacquiao will beat Mayweather in a convincing fashion should Floyd avoid the law and take his final payday against the most gifted prize fighter I have seen since the young Alexis Arguello. Manny's life span will exceed that of most athletes due to his extraordinary will power. Still, I am dismayed by his acceptance of Mosely as a viable opponent and will not purchase such nonsense.
This is an exhibition.
I will save my dollars for worthy match ups such as Vlad/Ademek.
Now thats a prize fight.

[GRUSTLER]

Pac chose to fight Cotto over Mosley in November 2009. How is that ducking. Cotto defeated Mosley, didnt he?? There was no wrong in choosing Cotto or Mosley. Either fight would have been great for his resume.

And I remember how you were certain that Cotto would demolish Pac before the fight. So stop acting like you were disappointed that Pac chose to fight Cotto instead of Mosley..

It was at a catchweight of 145 for Cotto's 147LB title, that Miguel
fought with Clottey over. Mosley fought an Undefeated Miguel
Cotto and he squeaked past Shane in that one. Nothing would have
been wrong with fighting Cotto if it was at 147 and Roach didn't blatantly
say Mosley was too good to get a fight with Pac. I picked Pac first to
beat Cotto but then relented and said Cotto would win because of size
and power but Pac won and I manned up and gave him his props so wish
you guys would stop bringing up the past and saying how I was wrong
because I have also been right about other things related to boxing as
well.

Pac is a good fighter but he has been fighting the same style fighters
since 2008 when he went to hell and back against JMM. There is a
reason Roach makes his opponents come in at a handicap. How can
I be hating on Pac when all of this is documented facts? Mosley
would have been a better win for Pac at that time and there should
be no denying that because Shane was the man to beat after he
KO'd Margarito while Cotto struggled against Clottey (Props for
fighting with blood in his eyes though).

If Pacquiao was half the champion and fighter people make him out
to be, then he would have fought Cotto at 147, considering Cotto
already had problems with Clottey AND Pac fought/defeated De La
Hoya at 147 prior and looked great. Why couldn't he do the same
for Cotto? Whatever the case is, while Manny is an entertaining
fighter. He is just not as good as people let off because he ain't
fighting evenly matched fights anymore.

[GRUSTLER]

Hey dude, why don't you smile in those pictures ? Don't be so down, life is not so bad.

You try going 3 days straight of non stop grinding, partying and drinking and see how you look in a photo the day your leaving one country to go to the next. There's no way I can think life is bad with them two underneath my
arms.

[FLY TY]

The discussions were all so smooth...negotiating...laying their cards on the table...arguing ... etc. After a week when all is said and done, Floyd balked and introduced this ****** blood testing.

You can give Mr. M;weather credit though. With all his antics, and craziness, and ******ity the boxing audience are anxious now for him to get in the ring and have his mouth shut. Of course they'll have to pay tickets or PPV to enjoy the sight. Smart, very smart.

go all the way back to when negotiations began the first time....it has already been stated that the drug testing clause was in the contract from jump...top rank just decided to make it a deal breaker after all the other terms had been agreed to. the testing clause wasn't a last minute "curveball" mayweather threw into the negotiations.

NO ONE.....not Larry, not Bob, Freddie, Manny, the biggest FLoyd critic or Manny supporter can explain....or excuse.....Why is Manny only fighting Top Rank fighters?(simple answer: More profits for bob doing in house promotions.)You can blame floyd.....you can say Manny is on the juice....at the end of the day the MAIN REASON this fight will never take place is Bob Arum

good post.

[mikemurni]

It was at a catchweight of 145 for Cotto's 147LB title, that Miguel
fought with Clottey over. Mosley fought an Undefeated Miguel
Cotto and he squeaked past Shane in that one. Nothing would have
been wrong with fighting Cotto if it was at 147 and Roach didn't blatantly
say Mosley was too good to get a fight with Pac. I picked Pac first to
beat Cotto but then relented and said Cotto would win because of size
and power but Pac won and I manned up and gave him his props so wish
you guys would stop bringing up the past and saying how I was wrong
because I have also been right about other things related to boxing as
well.

Pac is a good fighter but he has been fighting the same style fighters
since 2008 when he went to hell and back against JMM. There is a
reason Roach makes his opponents come in at a handicap. How can
I be hating on Pac when all of this is documented facts? Mosley
would have been a better win for Pac at that time and there should
be no denying that because Shane was the man to beat after he
KO'd Margarito while Cotto struggled against Clottey (Props for
fighting with blood in his eyes though).

If Pacquiao was half the champion and fighter people make him out
to be, then he would have fought Cotto at 147, considering Cotto
already had problems with Clottey AND Pac fought/defeated De La
Hoya at 147 prior and looked great. Why couldn't he do the same
for Cotto? Whatever the case is, while Manny is an entertaining
fighter. He is just not as good as people let off because he ain't
fighting evenly matched fights anymore.

You moron, there was never a validation that he was legitimate WW fighter even after he defeated Oscar. He came from the featherweight and had 3 fights against a LW, LWW and a drained WW. So asking for a catchweight was legitimate, and considering that Cotto weigh 146 against Clottey, the 145 lb catchweight was acceptable. The only illegitimate about that fight is the title but who gives a **** about the belt anyway. The important thing is the fight itself..

Documented facts my ass. What is documented is that how people think that the Cotto win was great for Pac's resume. And what is documented is your prediction on the fight, which you clearly still bitter about otherwise you wouldnt make so much excuses for Cotto and say that Pac was ducking Shane. And Shane was not exactly coming from a winning streak either. Before Marg, he looked awful against Mayorga, and before that he lose to Cotto.

Then you said that Cotto looked awful against Clottey. Well Pac fought Clottey immediately after Cotto at 147. So what the hell are you complaining about.

Clottey does not fight like Cotto and Marg. Cotto has a different style compared to Marg. If you think they are the same style then you dont really know what you are talking about. Anyway, I know you are asking for Pac to fight a slick style fighter. I got news for you, there is only one fighter that fights that way at WW, and he is on vacation.

[GRUSTLER]

go all the way back to when negotiations began the first time....it has already been stated that the drug testing clause was in the contract from jump...top rank just decided to make it a deal breaker after all the other terms had been agreed to. the testing clause wasn't a last minute "curveball" mayweather threw into the negotiations.

Thank you! That's what I'm talking about. Pac fans come on here and disrespect everyone and their mothers for saying something against Pacquiao but they don't even know what went down through the whole ordeal. They have the nerve to call people "*****s" and all this other kiddie nonsense but at the end of the day, their defending someone and don't even have all their facts to back up their posts. Freddie Roach said on video that Floyd wanted testing and that it would be no problem to take any test Floyd wanted. Once Floyd accepted everything to make the fight happen, then the blood tests were an issue when prior Roach said that they weren't?

I honestly feel like Pac fans should stay in the loop and do their homework before coming on here and insulting people that actually know what the hell is going on because to me, not knowing and acting like you know and protecting a fighter that you don't know the whole scoop on, makes you a "nuthugger" and or "groupie". Oops sorry, can't be a groupie because atleast they know everything about their idol.

[goldenbear]

I don't think Mayweather is concerned w/ Pac. Pac has a punchers chance to beat Floyd because he won't beat him on his skill. Manny has too many defensive flaws for a fighter like Floyd. So if Manny doesn't land a lot of big shots then I don't see him beating Floyd. Floyd showed in Shane fight his competitive spirit that if he gets embarrassed he wants to comeback. Manny is tough no doubt but I would give edge to Floyd because you need a jab against Floyd for starters.

[GRUSTLER]

You moron, there was never a validation that he was legitimate WW fighter even after he defeated Oscar. He came from the featherweight and had 3 fights against a LW, LWW and a drained WW. So asking for a catchweight was legitimate, and considering that Cotto weigh 146 against Clottey the 145 was acceptable. The only illegitimate about that fight is the title but who gives a **** about the belt anyway. The important thing is the fight itself..

Documented facts my ass. What is documented is that how people think that the Cotto win was great for Pac's resume. And what is documented is your prediction on the fight, which you clearly still bitter about otherwise you wouldnt make so much excuses for Cotto and say that Pac was ducking Shane. And Shane was not exactly coming from a winning streak either. Before Marg, he looked awful against Mayorga, and before that he lose to Cotto.

Clottey does not fight like Cotto and Marg. Cotto has a different style compared to Marg. If you think they are the same style then you dont really know what you are talking about. Anyway, I know you are asking for Pac to fight a slick style fighter. I got news for you, there is only one fighter that fights that way at WW, and he is on vacation.

Bull****..... Pac weighed 149 on fight night against Oscar and dominated him in EVERY ROUND. Pac was ready to take Cotto on at 147. I didn't say Pac was ducking Shane...... Roach did! So your the moron for believing that the so called P4P#1 fighter in the sport demanded Cotto to fight him at a catchweight eventhough Miguel was the champion.

"Shane came to the gym twice to ask me to let him fight Manny, "Roach says. "I told him no both times, and both times for the same two reasons: First, there isn't enough money there, and second, you're too good a fighter.

http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f53/fr...cquiao-1143464

Roach said that though a “Mosley fight is probably the most exciting because they both like to fight,” it's all about making the fight on even terms.

"I have to protect my fighter,” said Roach, who administered the terms for Pacquiao and Oscar De La Hoya last year. “I spoke to Shane and told him that we would fight him at 142. He said he can’t make that weight.”

Mosley asked why not 147, as Manny/Oscar was set at 147? Roach said that Mosley is not De La Hoya in terms of setting a weight handicap.

http://www.thesweetscience.com/boxin...z-mosley-more/

You are the one making things up

[V.WEBB]

no matter how you 2 try your best to pretend...your ***** asses still stink

is it desperate times at ***** camp? first it was gino ros masquerading as some gay *******...although the gay part is absolutely true. now it's you and VAW wow pretending to be biased, ignorant, boneheaded and loyal *******s...again, only that part (biased, ignorant, boneheaded and loyal) is true

Stop crying. Red K sent. Check your User CP asap.

[mikemurni]

Bull****..... Pac weighed 149 on fight night against Oscar and dominated him in EVERY ROUND. Pac was ready to take Cotto on at 147. I didn't say Pac was ducking Shane...... Roach did! So your the moron for believing that the so called P4P#1 fighter in the sport demanded Cotto to fight him at a catchweight eventhing Miguel was the champion.

You are the one making things up

So you dont believe that Pac was not a legitimate WW yet when he fought Cotto. Then why bet on Cotto to win the fight? Pac fought 3 fights at 3 different weight classes, so how the hell do you know what Pac's ideal weight was at that time. Can you name me one fighter who has done that?

Then you refer to his weight in the DLH fight. Well you refuse to give him credit for DLH fight anyway, so how the hell can you come up with that conclusion?

This is funny ****.You keep quoting Freddie, like his word is end all of all discussion. He also said the "Floyd is dVcking Pac". Do you believe in that statement too? More like you only nitpick on his quotes on what you think that would support your case. Pathetic.