Which win is more impressive, Mayweather vs Corrales or Pacquiao vs Barrera 1?

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  • slicksouthpaw16
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    #91
    @Jrosales. Yes but that really wasn't my point. The person that i quoted stated that Marco had never been dominated and i brought up Junior Jones, who knocked him out in the first fight and out boxed him in the rematch. He completely had Barrera's number. As for Barrera getting technically better afterwards i agree, but the point still stands. Also, i remember the intro of the Pacquaio fight where he was talking to Merchant about him getting a plate put into his head so theres other issues to factor in. I'm not saying that he was shot or too past his peak but he HAD some wear and tear on him reguardless of what the oddsmakers thought going in. Corales was pound for pound one of the best, had looked nearly flawless up until that point and several experts actually chose him to win. Barrera was definitely a great win and he was favored, but Corales was by far fresher and was definitely in his prime. Am i saying that Mayweathers win was better just because Corales was unbeaten? No, he as just in better condition.
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    • BigStereotype
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      #92
      Barrera came back to beat Morales, Ayala, Tapia and battled a fresh Marquez to a standstill. Diego Corrales was overrated to begin with. Exciting fighter, but didn't belong in the same ring with Mayweather.

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      • jrosales13
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        #93
        Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16
        @Jrosales. Yes but that really wasn't my point. The person that i quoted stated that Barre had never been dominated and i brought up Junior Jones, who knocked him out in the first fight and out boxed him in the rematch. He completely had Barrera's number. As for Barrera getting technically better afterwards i agree, but the point still stands. Also, i remember the intro of the Pacquaio fight where he was talking to Merchant about him getting a plate put into his head so theres other issues to factor in. I'm not saying that he was shot or too past his peak but he HAD some wear and tear on him reguardless of what the oddsmakers thought going in. Corales was pound for pound one of the best, had looked nearly flawless up until that point and several experts actually chose him to win. Barrera was definitely a great win and he was favored, but Corales was by far fresher and was definitely in his prime. Am i saying that Mayweathers win was better just because Corales was unbeaten? No, he as just in better condition.
        The plate was put on his head like in 1997. 6 years prior to the Pac fight. After the plate on his head incident he went on to beat Morales, school Hamed, became the man in the division and P4P elite.

        Yes Corrales P4P was one of the best but Barrera was considered P4P one of the best at the time. Matter he was ranked higher P4P at the time by the same publication that ranked Corrales P4P one of the best.

        So Barrera beats him in that category also.

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        • AssasinKing
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          #94
          Originally posted by FootWork777
          Funny how yo hating ass fails to mention that Barrera was no longer prime and had gone through several wars before fighting Pac, what else is new

          Corrales was PRIME and undefeated when Floyd outclassed him. You just did what you do, no surprises from you as usual.
          Why make a Thread when you already have a biased opinion?

          "Barrera had been through wars"

          These guys are boxers you fool, Everyone uses the same ****ty line now adays...hes been through a war....A fighter that has been through **** tht will effect him is some1 like miguel cotto...

          That is someone that has been through a war....

          Barrera is 1 of the greatest fighters ever....Corrales isnt, Deal with it, get your head out of floyds ass, whipe the **** clean and open your eyes...

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            #95
            Originally posted by jrosales13
            Here is the thing Barrera reinvented himself after the Jones fight. He worked on his craft became much more versatile. A pre Jones would of went to war with Hamed. A post Jones used his skills against Hamed used his boxing IQ.

            To just say well he lost to Jones(even though JJ was a damn good fighter) and Corrales was undefeated" I mean that is too simplistic of a way to look at it.

            Yes Corrales had punching power. But, Barrera was the much more versatile, skillful, smarter fighter. Between the Jones and Pac fights Barrera had the better wins going in than what Corrales did going in.

            Barrera was also the main man at featherweight at the time. And, also like Chico was pretty high in most P4P list...I think at the time he was higher than Chico was at the time Corrales fought Floyd by The Ring. Corrales was a legit threat to Floyd. But, Pac wasn't suppose to beat Barrera.

            I have no problem with people picking the Corrales win. I can see why...The problem is with the simplified reason as to well Corrales undefeated and Barrera wasn't...When that really doesn't matter or that Corrales was this monster but if you realize Pac wasn't suppose to win that fight...

            How about the fact that PBF defeated Corrales in much more impressive fashion than Pac defeated MAB, that factors into the equation as well.

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              #96
              Originally posted by FootWork777
              How about the fact that PBF defeated Corrales in much more impressive fashion than Pac defeated MAB, that factors into the equation as well.
              Pac dominating and stopping a greater fighter, P4P better fighter, more versatile fighter, better skilled fighter, and the man at featherweight at the time in Pac 3rd division, to score a huge upset, is really impressive. That factors into the equation as well.

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                #97
                Originally posted by AssasinKing
                Why make a Thread when you already have a biased opinion?

                "Barrera had been through wars"

                These guys are boxers you fool, Everyone uses the same ****ty line now adays...hes been through a war....A fighter that has been through **** tht will effect him is some1 like miguel cotto...

                That is someone that has been through a war....

                Barrera is 1 of the greatest fighters ever....Corrales isnt, Deal with it, get your head out of floyds ass, whipe the **** clean and open your eyes...
                Damn, how many ways can I say the same thing, it's not about who was better Corrales or Barrera, I realize that Barrera is a better fighter than Corrales. The OP is asking which win was more impressive, Floyd fought a perfect fight and KO a guy some thought he would be KO against. Mayweather's performance against Corrales is one of the top 3 performances I've ever seen. Try hooked on phonics.

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by Walt Liquor
                  Only a moron argues that corrales was undefeated so that win was better. That's a terrible terrible argument.

                  Corrales was undefeated. So is lateef kayode I'm pretty sure, uss isn't so is a win over kayode a better win than one over kayode?
                  is a win over humberto soto better than a win over a undefeated alexander (pre bradley)?

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by letsgobrady
                    is a win over humberto soto better than a win over a undefeated alexander (pre bradley)?
                    Where is the win taking place at? And around what year?

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                      #100
                      Originally posted by jrosales13
                      Pac dominating and stopping a greater fighter, P4P better fighter, more versatile fighter, better skilled fighter, and the man at featherweight at the time in Pac 3rd division, to score a huge upset, is really impressive. That factors into the equation as well.
                      It just depends on whatever you favor, everyone here has some bias, including myself. But I don't see how anybody could have a much better performance than what Floyd displayed against Corrales.

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