Which win is more impressive, Mayweather vs Corrales or Pacquiao vs Barrera 1?

[Steak]

I don't think im getting across here. I'm talking about conditions of the two fighters at the time that Mayweather and Pacquaio beat them, and i already explained how Barrera had issues prior to thier fight, and hed been through several blood and guts wars. And if the plate was put it all the way back then, why did Merchant bring it up before the Pacquaio fight? Lets also not think that Pacquaio was unknown, he had won titles prior, the main reason he was the under dog is because only hardcore fans knew who he was.

If Barrera was having issues prior to the fight, then sure as hell Corrales was too. he was in and out of court because of beating up his woman, and had been sentenced to prison time not too long before the fight, which was why he was out of boxing for the next 2 years.

[slicksouthpaw16]

Ck southpaw is bringing up all of these additional factors about barrera. If you want to dig deeper into the condition of both fighters at the time of their respective fights, you have to consider that Diego was having mad personal problems at that time and was facing jail time.

I mean of you're going to nitpicking the barrera win should we not also nitpicking the corrales win.


Chief. I said corrales was overrated at the time of the floyd win. I didn't say he was an overrated fighter. His best win was Robert Garcia, while barrera had a handful of better wins at the time. It's really not even close.

And eaner stop speaking rationally to the ts.

Its a fighters responsibility to keep thier mind soley on boxing at the time of thier fights, they are professionals and that wasn't the only time in his career he had personal problems. You can't simply take your mind off a medal plate and past wars because thats physical wear and tear.

[Gino Ros]

Not as high as Barrera. The people's Champ who embarrassed Hamed.

Was Barrera undefeated coming in?

[Eaner0919]

Floyds caliber? Keep in mind that the fight between Mayweather and Corales was a title unification and that BOTH of them was fighting thier best opponent up until that date.

cmon now you're dumbing down Mayweather a bit to sell your case?


we all knew of the pedigree Mayweather brought into the pros

we all saw easily he handled Chicanito Hernandez (well maybe you didn't but I sure did) when most thought HE would be a tough test for Mayweather

we all saw easily he handled Manfredy, who was thought to be a top contender at the time.

we knew of his calibur and pedigree you trying to deny it is almost comical

[Walt Liquor]

is a win over humberto soto better than a win over a undefeated alexander (pre bradley)?

depends. But it certainly doesn't matter if one is undefeated, or being undefeated should not be the determining factor. Also depends on who te fighter that beat each fighter is.

[Slick_Rick]

I don't think im getting across here. I'm talking about conditions of the two fighters at the time that Mayweather and Pacquaio beat them, and i already explained how Barrera had issues prior to thier fight, and hed been through several blood and guts wars. And if the plate was put it all the way back then, why did Merchant bring it up before the Pacquaio fight? Lets also not think that Pacquaio was unknown, he had won titles prior, the main reason he was the under dog is because only hardcore fans knew who he was.

Corrales had issue of his own as well.

A match with rival Floyd Mayweather was slated for January 2001 with a record purse of $1.5 million each. On the surface, everything seemed to be falling into place for Corrales. In reality, though, everything was falling apart.

If Corrales was on top of his game inside the ring, he was losing control outside it. An argument with his then-wife Maria had escalated into a violent dispute, and Corrales’ court date loomed. A high-profile match with Mayweather was hurriedly put together, with some people contending that Corrales was being auctioned off--cashed out by the promoter while his career was still viable.

In the months leading up to the Mayweather fight, Corrales also found out his IBF 130-pound title had been abdicated by managers--and conveniently given to another fighter in their stable.

“I had a real-estate company at the time in Phoenix. Next thing I know, one of my friends comes on the computer and says, ‘You vacated your belt?’” said Corrales. At that time, he was having difficulty getting his weight down. “I’m starting to read this article about me giving up my title. And I felt like I didn’t have the opportunity to give up my belt. It was my right to give that up.”

Corrales sued his managers and settled in arbitration for an undisclosed sum. It was another distraction he didn’t need.

But Corrales didn’t care about any of that; he simply wanted to fight Mayweather and resolve their bitter rivalry in the ring. It was time to settle affairs with a man who’d taunted him endlessly about his personal problems with his wife and virtually everything else, too. Corrales is not quick to exchange verbal barbs; he bided his time, seething as Floyd milked every public appearance with a mounting tide of threats, insults and goading. Finally, Corrales succumbed, and the bad blood was flowing freely in both directions. With combined black and Hispanic fan bases, the bout was a natural headliner to kick off HBO’s 2001 broadcast schedule.

For Corrales, it meant making the dreaded 130-pound limit one last time; one final episode of long days with only a g****fruit to eat, of jogging in rubber suits and of endless steam baths to get down to the limit. One more time, and he’d be off to the 135-pound lightweights and living fat, never having to take off those terrible final pounds again.

He walked up to the scale, and the fight was, in a sense, lost right there. For all his efforts in the steam bath that morning, shedding 8 pounds, he was still 132--two pounds overweight. He went back and ****** the 2 pounds off in time for the weigh-in. A day later, his body both starved and waterlogged from his ensuing rehydration, he entered the ring--146 pounds at fight time--and the results were a disaster.

“I didn’t really realize ’til the third or fourth round that everything was going bad,” said Corrales. “And I was cramping up. … My legs started cramping real good, and I’m going, ‘What’s the deal here?’”

The blood feud had gotten the best of Corrales, his fury clouding years of training and technique. After being picked apart in a surgical manner, Corrales was floored three times in the seventh. He kept pressing, and Mayweather kept hitting him. Finally, in the 10th round, after the fifth knockdown, his stepfather waved the bout off and saved him from moot punishment.

“What the hell are you doing?” screamed Corrales. Woods, mindful of his stepson’s pride, shook his head--mute, yet resolute. Chico would take no more.

“I would rather fell out dead in that ring than let that fight pass me by like it did,” Corrales said. “I don’t think I talked to my dad for two weeks after that. I couldn’t bring myself to talk to him about it. When it came up, I told him, ‘Hey, I felt what you did was wrong. But it’s water under the bridge.’”

[-Huey-]

Floyd vs Corrales was way more impressive.

[Walt Liquor]

Its a fighters responsibility to keep thier mind soley on boxing at the time of thier fights, they are professionals and that wasn't the only time in his career he had personal problems. You can't simply take your mind off a medal plate and past wars because thats physical wear and tear.

of course you can. i have metal in my knee and have for years. I don't think about it ever.

[Walt Liquor]

Floyds caliber? Keep in mind that the fight between Mayweather and Corales was a title unification and that BOTH of them was fighting thier best opponent up until that date.

wo. just wow.

[Konstantin]

I think Floyds win against Castillo is a better win than Corrales.