Say what you want about Mayweather's inactivity, but he fights P4P Elites

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  • mikemurni
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    #81
    Originally posted by cklmaced
    Proof please because Hatton getting KO by Floyd followed by unimpressive fights before and after that fight I really doubt he was. Cotto had been destroyed by Margarito I know he probably cheated but still so I doubt he was in the top 8 either after only winning a tune up and beating Clottey.
    Here knock yourself out.. Notice rankings of year end 2008.. And both Cotto and Hatton had wins in early 2009 before they fought Pac which made them move them up the rankings. Not to mention Vasquez (temporary) and Calzaghe both retired in early 2009 which bumped Cotto and Hatton up the rankings.

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    • cklmaced
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      #82
      Originally posted by mikemurni
      Here knock yourself out.. Notice rankings of year end 2008.. And both Cotto and Hatton had wins in early 2009 before they fought Pac which made them move them up the rankings. Not to mention Vasquez (temporary) and Calzaghe both retired in early 2009 which bumped Cotto and Hatton up the rankings.

      http://www.theboxinghistorian.com/ri...-pound-history
      Fair enough although I cant see why Hatton was ranked that high.

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      • cklmaced
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        #83
        Originally posted by madsweeney
        You want proof of an imaginary list? Seriously, how can you guys laud Floyd's win over Hatton because he was a p4p ranked fighter, then not give similar credit for Pac fighting the same guy? He lost ONE fight to a guy that was ranked significantly higher on the p4p list, does that automatically mean he was never really any good?

        http://www.************.com/2009/08/...eats-pacquiao/

        "Cotto has fought quality opposition throughout his career and proved himself against the likes of Mosley, Judah and Quintana. He is now ranked 8th on the pound for pound list after winning a close decision to Joshua Clottey"
        He doesn't get the same credit cos Floyd beat most of Manny's opponents before he did Hatton, De La Hoya and soon to be Mosley. Floyd beat Hatton when he was undefeated so of course he gets more credit fought a not compleatly shot De la Hoya and the Margarito fight took a lot out of Cotto.

        Im not saying that it wasn't an achievement beating those fighters but he didn't face them at their prime or peak moment in their career. I mean Manny has beaten many quality opponents in his career at their prime but against common opponents Floyd has beaten them when they were more difficult to win against.

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          #84
          Originally posted by cupocity303
          Say what you will about Mayweather's inactivity and the abilities of his opponents (I.E. Too small, Too Old, Too pale etc,.) but in his last three fights, he has fought P4P Elites.

          Hatton - Top 10 P4P

          Marquez - Top 5 P4P

          Mosley - Top 5 P4P

          Judging by that record, he is going right back to a Top 10 guy whenever he comes back.
          Hatton is nowhere near p4p level talent and neither is Mosley.

          JMM obviously is but he's a career FW so he doesn't even count.

          Next.

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            #85
            Originally posted by mikemurni
            That's only 3, Pac fought 6 fights with 2 fighters ranked at #3.

            Barrera - #3 P4P
            Marquez - #3 P4P
            Morales 1 and 2 - Top 10 P4P
            Cotto - Top 6 P4P
            Hatton - P4P# 8

            Plus he didnt ask the other to climb up 2 divisions to fight him. There was no WW ranked in the P4P list that was available in between the time he fought Clottey and Margarito...
            Morales wasn't in the top 10 P4P in the second fight, and of course lost the first fight, so those 2 really can't be credited.

            Cotto was #8, not #6.

            I can't remember Hatton he was either #10 or #8 but he wa definitely top 10.

            The rest are right I believe.

            But i don't think the TS means throughout their careers. Well I presume so as he's left out Corrales for Mayweather. I believe he mean in thier last 3 fights each (including Mosley for Pacqiauo) Which Pacqiauo has fought 3 fighters not in the Top 10 P4P.

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              #86
              Originally posted by cklmaced
              Proof please because Hatton getting KO by Floyd followed by unimpressive fights before and after that fight I really doubt he was. Cotto had been destroyed by Margarito I know he probably cheated but still so I doubt he was in the top 8 either after only winning a tune up and beating Clottey.
              Hatton was ranked #8 when Floyd fought him and When Manny fought him he was either #8 or #10. A year or two prior to that he was #5.

              Cotto was #8.

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                #87
                Originally posted by cupocity303
                Say what you will about Mayweather's inactivity and the abilities of his opponents (I.E. Too small, Too Old, Too pale etc,.) but in his last three fights, he has fought P4P Elites.

                Hatton - Top 10 P4P

                Marquez - Top 5 P4P

                Mosley - Top 5 P4P

                Judging by that record, he is going right back to a Top 10 guy whenever he comes back.
                yeah, he fights p4p top ten fighters from weight classes below welterweight, or when they are nearly 40! i didnt see him fight a prime margarito, cotto and now pacquiao.

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                • sunny31
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                  #88
                  Floyd always does the bare minimum expected of him in his fights and choice of opponent. There are a few exceptions, but not recently

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                  • shade darkar
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Cash Cow
                    Correction..

                    Hatton was P4P#5 when he fought Mayweather
                    Marquez was P4P#2 when he fought Mayweather

                    Mosley was P4P#3 when he fought Mayweather


                    Lets look at Manny

                    Cotto wasnt on P4P list when Pacquiao fought him

                    Clottey wasnt on P4P list when Pacquiao fought him

                    Margarito wasnt on P4P list when Pacquiao fought him


                    no he wasnt. he never went higher than p4p number 8. look again.

                    edit: hatton that is.

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                    • shade darkar
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Cash Cow
                      Marquez wasnt ranked #2 P4P when Mayweather fought him?

                      Mayweather fought Marquez @ 142lbs and Manny doesnt even want to fight Marquez @ 147lbs..lol He would rather fight Mosley.
                      lol, short memory? he agreed to fight him at 144lbs, and then failed to make weight.

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