Wlad vs Lewis

[*OG Wenger*]

Wladimir Klitschko is a poor mans Lennox Lewis....Lewis has the reach and the power to humiliate Wlad Klitschko...Remember Wlad wont be able to hide behind his jab against Lewis and would take alot of punishment...and we have seen how Wlads punch resistance (or lack of) holds up....

[cklmaced]

You see the problem is that it doesn't show on his record. If yhe was so aggressive and so not cautious why does he have the far lower KOratio (only 10 KOs in 18 world title fights).

All this talk about "style", "footwork", "heart" etc is FOG TALK if it doesn't translate into KOs ESPECIALLY SINCE LEWIS WAS OUTWEIGHING his opponents more than Wlad.


It's not way better. You may argue that Lennox' is better or Wlad's but neither one's is WAY better.

Wlad's opponents at bout (world title fights): 30-2
Lennox's : 32-1

And please note, that Lennox' opponents have a better record because they (more than Wlad's) were natural cruisers (= boxed below 200lbs) that have of course higher records.

One's you only compare their real heavyweight records then it looks like this:
Wlad's median opponent's record (200x2) at world title fights: 28-1 (457-30)
Lennox: 30-1 (443-26)
Muhammad Ali: 11-1 (sum 276-37)

In terms of heavyweight (200x2) Wlad has pretty much a very comparable resume as Lennox. Muhammad Ali in terms of heavyweight (200x2) is two leagues lower than Wlad or Lennox.


Don't invent stuff. Wlad needs 4.8 rounds per KO, while Lennox needs 6.4 rounds. Again you produce only SUBJECTIVE OPNIONS ("goes for the KO") that collide with FACTS.

Add to it that Lennox scored only 31 KOs (in 200x2 fights) against an average opponent 228 lbs while Wlad scored 49 (and counting) and it underlines again who has more fun going for the KO.

OMG you think Ali is two leagues below Wlad or Lewis how exactly? Lewis had much tougher opponents most people could easily name 5 Lewis or Ali fights could a regular person even know who Wlad is let alone name one of his fights.

[Money Shot]

Wladimir Klitschko is a poor mans Lennox Lewis....Lewis has the reach and the power to humiliate Wlad Klitschko...Remember Wlad wont be able to hide behind his jab against Lewis and would take alot of punishment...and we have seen how Wlads punch resistance (or lack of) holds up....

He's never failed to beat a count, unlike Lewis.

[cklmaced]

He's never failed to beat a count, unlike Lewis.

Cause the ref waves it off

[hweightblogger]

I'm just gonna say this. IT IS NOT ALL ABOUT STATISTICS AND NUMBERS.

What you call numbers I call FACTS. And yes, I'd rather base my opinion on facts than on fantasies like "Lennox goes more for the KO than Wlad" which COLLIDE with facts.

Are you seriously saying Ali's resume is worse than Wlads and Lewis's because of some ****** statistics?

Ali's REAL HEAVYWEIGHT resume (= how we define heavyweight nowadays = 200 lbs x2) is FAR WORSE than Lennox'. Just as Roy Jones Jr's real heavyweight resume is bad. It doesn't mean that RJJ is a bad boxer.

If "heavyweight" will in the future be defined as 230x2 then Ali's resume will be worse than Chauncy Welliver's because Ali did not have a single fight 230x2. It's a no-brainer.

[Kris Silver]

I voted before checking who voted for Wlad.

Can we do a name and shame?

[Money Shot]

Cause the ref waves it off

At least he gave the ref a decision to make

[*OG Wenger*]

He's never failed to beat a count, unlike Lewis.

stfu noob!

[Money Shot]

stfu noob!

[hweightblogger]

Evander is nothing like Wlad in physical dimensions, style or attributes so it's a ****** comparison.

It's Ovah says it like it is. I noticed that It's Ovah has the most down to earth objective approach in all the Lennox discussions.

The closest fighter Lennox fought that was like Wlad was probably Bruno or Tucker

Frank Bruno: 6'3'', KOratio against better opponents 60%+
Tucker: KOratio against better opponents 40%+
Even those guys are incomparable.

Lennox: KOratio against better opponents 60%+
Wlad: KOratio against better opponents 80%+

(better opponents = those opponents who have won 75%+ of their fights in their whole career).

and those were both early in his career. Wlad would definitely be Lennox's most well-skilled tall opponent, and one of the hardest hitting.

Exactly.