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  • Big Ukrainian
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    #161
    I think, Lewis was a great fighter, but to say he would destroy Wlad like he did it with Michael Grant? LOL! Wlad is 10000000 times better than Grant! Grant was destroyed in 43 seconds by Jameel McCline, so McCline should've KO'ed Wlad in 1 round, I guess? (Wlad stopped McCline in 10 rounds, if you don't know). Wlad will be tough opponent for Lennox because of his power, speed and great jab - Lewis always had problems with fighters, who had a good jab. But Lennox would be very tough opponent for Wlad as well, mostly because his great inside uppercuts. Both Wlad and Lennox have great power, so both could KO each other. I think, Lewis was more relaxed in the ring and had more killer instinct than Wlad, so if Lewis turns the fight into brawl (and I think he would after few rounds of cautious boxing), I'd give the edge to him. One thing for sure - if any of them lands his best punch, the opponent will go down.

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    • Big Ukrainian
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      #162
      By the way, here is opinion of the man, who have trained both Lewis and Wlad, Emanuel Steward: "Lewis was a more versatile fighter (than Wlad), he could completely restructure the course of a fight. I worked with five world champions in the heavyweight division, including Evander Holyfield. And I will say that Wladimir 's body of work and his coordination is better than all the rest of my students. However, sometimes he must act more aggressively. Sometimes he thinks for too long".

      But at the same time, Steward says that Wlad hits harder, than Lennox: "Never, ever, ever have I been involved with a fighter who has so much one punch punching power. Even guys that knock somebody out—they get them hurt, they knock them down, they get them groggy—Wladimir is the only fighter I’ve ever worked with that everything can be normal like a big party—everybody is having champagne, on the floors, in the tuxedos, with the music—and the lights go off completely at one time. I mean it’s not like a gradual dimmer switch. I never saw anyone who knocked out people in a gym when they block punches and he did that about three weeks ago with a sparring partner—two weeks ago, prior to the fight. With a sparring partner he threw a left hook, the sparring partner blocked the punch and with twenty ounce gloves he was still knocked out. He has unbelievable one punch punching power"

      And so does Phil Jackson, who fought both Wlad and Lewis:

      "Malinowski: More powerful than Lennox Lewis would you say?

      Phil Jackson: Yeah, most definitely. Yeah.

      Malinowski: What hand? Right hand?

      Phil Jackson: Both. Both. Put it this way...if it would have been him in there when his brother fought Lennox Lewis, I think he would have dropped Lennox Lewis. I honestly do. I think he would have dropped Lennox Lewis - if he would have been in the best of shape".

      It's not my words, it's words of trainer, who trained both Wlad and Lennox, and words of the fighter, who fought both of them.
      Last edited by Big Ukrainian; 01-10-2011, 07:19 PM.

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      • hweightblogger
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        #163
        Originally posted by Cousin Vinny
        You haven't posted anything factual either because records, stats and numbers does NOT prove who is the better fighter or who has the better resume.

        Lennox Lewis has by far the betters resume and no matter how many stats of who has faced guys with "better" records or heavier opponents is not gonna change that.

        Records/Stats/Numbers/Weights has no impact what so ever of how GOOD a fighter is.
        What a nonsense is this? You mean a fighter with a 80-1 record could be considered worse than a fighter with a "1-80 record but who has good footwork"? Give me a break.

        It's actually the other way around: STYLE, TALENT, REFLEXES etc are completely irrelevant if they don't trickle down as RESULTS (= WINS, KOs). Thus the record tells 90%-95% of the story whereas your subjective feelings and memories ("Wow, what a combo!") are irrelevant. A fighter can throw as many beautiful combos as he wants. If he loses he loses. Boxing is not a style contest.
        Last edited by hweightblogger; 01-10-2011, 10:02 PM.

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        • hweightblogger
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          #164
          Originally posted by Cousin Vinny
          Indeed. hweightblogger ranks Wlad above Ali
          Don't invent stuff.

          Originally posted by Cousin Vinny
          Every post of his proves how new to boxing he is. He probably started folowing it a few weeks ago tops.
          With such a wrong assessment it's no wonder that you think that records don't matter.

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          • Rick Grimes
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            #165
            Why do most Klitschko fans on here have an obsession with boxrec and thinks it's stats proves one fighter better than another?


















            Answer = Because it's the same person with 100 accounts.

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            • Motofan
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              #166
              Lewis by grim death.

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              • flat1985
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                #167
                Originally posted by Motofan
                Lewis by grim death.
                Yeah u know that lol

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                • Jim Jeffries
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                  #168
                  I'd favor Lewis, but the poll was so ridiculously lopsided, I threw Wlad a vote. Regardless of who would've won, Wlad called Lennox out in Mar 2001 and Lewis didn't want none.



                  Go to 3:10.

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                  • jimburi
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                    #169
                    The poll misses the I don't know option
                    which is my answer

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                    • Walt Liquor
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                      #170
                      mna, people act like lennox was looking like kirk johnson vs vitali.

                      vitali v lennox prime for prime is and will always be a great, close fight. wlad, not so much.

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