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[BrotherDudeJack]

he was at 140 for a year bro. He fought gatti, Bruseles, corley.

Pac's circumstances were a little different though I think his intentions were to slowly go up but was kind of forced due to unique opportunities (Oscar after the Diaz figth). That basically changed everything.

If Oscar was an option for Floyd earlier in his career let's say when he was still at 140 I'm sure Floyd would have done the same thing, and he would have kicked everyones ass just the same because he's that good.

wow... an unbiased post.. You are a Pac fan, but can still admit Floyd has some serious skill. This place needs more posters like you, and less fanboys.. I mean seriously , do u guys think I'm insane for being a fan of JMM and Pac. I was a huge PBF fan before he started this whole "Money" character. Even though I don't like his attitude or his lifestyle, I can still appreciate his skills in that ring.

[Khalid X]

What was inaccurate about that statement? LOL

Man if you can read that and not see the ******ity in his logic, I really don't know what to tell you.

I kinda get it though. It makes sense to you because it fits an agenda you have.

Cool bro....but I'm not gonna waste time debate that type of idiotic reasoning.

[Doctor_Tenma]

Mayweather's 1st fight at 147.

[Doctor_Tenma]

Man if you can read that and not see the ******ity in his logic, I really don't know what to tell you.

I kinda get it though. It makes sense to you because it fits an agenda you have.

Cool bro....but I'm not gonna waste time debate that type of idiotic reasoning.

He said most of those 14 pounds was mostly fat, which it was. The hell are you talking about?!

[PacquiaoATG]

Floyd did not go from super feather to welter in 9 months. Floyd went from super feather to welter over a 4 year time span. He had much more time to add muscle.

9 months

4 years

tell me which one sounds more natural to you?

also since you are big on pics

here is Manny on March 14 2008: weight 129lbs



now here is the De La Hoya weigh in: weight 144lbs



now while he is indeed smoother in the DLH weigh in with less striations do you honestly see 15lbs of what you guys think is water weight and not cutting?

I mean you guys have seen what 15lbs looks like in terms of muscle right?

Oh lord...

I guess Roy Jones Jr. was on PED too. 18 to 19 lbs in just 6 months. lol http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?hum...1758&cat=boxer

	2003-03-01	193	John Ruiz	226	38-4-1		Thomas & Mack Center, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States	W	UD	12	12
	referee: Jay Nady | judge: Jerry Roth 116-112 | judge: Stanley Christodoulou 118-110 | judge: Duane Ford 117-111 WBA World heavyweight title (supervisor: Calvin Inalsingh)
		2002-09-07	174¾	Clinton Woods	174	32-1-0		Rose Garden, Portland, Oregon, United States	W	TKO	6	12

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?hum...1758&cat=boxer

[Mr.0pal]

9 months

4 years

tell me which one sounds more natural to you?

also since you are big on pics

here is Manny on March 14 2008: weight 129lbs



now here is the De La Hoya weigh in: weight 144lbs



now while he is indeed smoother in the DLH weigh in with less striations do you honestly see 15lbs of what you guys think is water weight and not cutting?

I mean you guys have seen what 15lbs looks like in terms of muscle right?

Even on that pic, he looks a tiny bit less ripped because the lighting is more at a downward shine in the top pic. You can tell by the shadow casted on his lats (under his armpit). The more the light is in front of you the less rips you will see.

[Scratch2win28]

You talk with to much sense!!!

Adding 10 lbs in 6 months would not happen with a man as small as Manny and with the cardio that he, as a boxer, does. 45 minutes of cardio alone is catabolic. He trains for hours in camp.

[Puntoyhauf]

Adding 10 lbs in 6 months would not happen with a man as small as Manny and with the cardio that he, as a boxer, does. 45 minutes of cardio alone is catabolic. He trains for hours in camp.

You have a point, but is it not possible for him to gain 10lbs in 6months considering the amount of his protein intake per day?

[PacquiaoATG]

Even on that pic, he looks a tiny bit less ripped because the lighting is more at a downward shine in the top pic. You can tell by the shadow casted on his lats (under his armpit). The more the light is in front of you the less rips you will see.

Its called drained Pacquiao.

[Khalid X]

I think in the case of Hopkins 1. people have speculated that he might have used something to move up and 2. he is a much larger framed man than Manny

Like who? Because if there are, I haven't heard about it.

It's not even just Hopkins for that manner, and if you want me to I could easily name examples of guys who were either the same size or smaller than Manny and made similar jumps.

Hopkins was just one of the countless examples I can bring up.

My point is this: Why are people acting like this hasn't been done before and Manny is the only one who has made a jump in weight like that?