Why a lot of people think Pac is juicing? Look inside ...

[damned1974]

So Oscar thought in the fight that Manny hits like he is on peds? lol.

Hahaha Oscar cant take it calling out a smaller fighter then geting smashed haha

That wasn't the point of the post....on one hand the guy wants to use selected words from Oscar while forgetting other things he has said.I am inclined to agree with your statement though....

[imthegoat]

LOL at Pacquiao is equally as shredded now as he was at around 130. He's looked the SOFTEST AGAINST MARGARITO! You could barely see any definition in his abs, chest, muscles, etc.

I remember seeing comments "lol maybe the camp wasn't going well". I don't think that's true, but he wasn't shredded.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0IXb...layer_embedded

At 2:10 or so when he bends over you can see the fat in his stomach.

[al-Xander]

I noticed that *****s are out in full force these days digging once
again the same old links accusing Pac of roiding. Damn Pac.
He must really have impressed the hell out of these clowns with his
boxing skills that they can't believe he's real. Within the next few days
they will go back crushing their own arguments by presenting "facts"
saying Pac has been fighting weak fighters. Hahaha.... *******s just
need to sit and watch *****s' hilarious out-of-whack logic and make a
fool of themselves. BBC, CNN, 60 min, ESPN, etc. Not one take these
accusations seriously. At some point fanboys need to realize that all
these attempt to smear a clean fighter is futile.

[Tomislav III]

Just come upon this article and it's a very interesting read.

Pacquiao is one of the highest weight climbers in the history of the sport, what seperates him from the rest of the weight climbers is that Pacquiao is shorter than the others and Pacquiao remained just as muscular and ripped as he climbed while the others looked softer and even fat.

I got a list of the highest weight climbers and what % weight they put on from the time their bodies matured, a typical male body stops growing at age 21, this means your skeletal frame stops growing in height and your body is pretty much filled out by that age.

M.A.Barrera and E.Morales matured at 122lbs, they had success up to 130lbs,a 6% weight gain for both, neither looked ripped at 130lbs…

J.M.Marquez matured at 126 lbs, had success up to 135 lbs, a 7% weight gain, still looked pretty fit at 135lbs…

Julio C.Chavez matured at 130 lbs, had success up to 140 lbs, an 8% weight gain, didn’t look ripped at 140lbs…

Floyd Mayweather matured at 130lbs, had succes up to 150lbs vs DLH, a 15% weight gain, still looked fit at 150 but not ripped…

Pernell Whittaker matured at 135lbs, had success up to 154lbs, a 14% weight gain, actually had a roll of fat around his waist for his 1 fight at 154lbs…

Roberto Duran matured at 135 lbs, had success up to 157lbs against I.Barkley, a 16% weight gain, was pudgy and even fat at this weight, even looked soft at 154lbs…

O.DeLaHoya matured at 135lbs, had success up to 154lbs, a 14% weight gain, looked normal, not ripped at 154lbs…

S.R.Leonard matured at 147lbs, had success up to 165lbs vs D.Lalonde, a 12% weight gain, looked fit at 165…

Thomas hearns, matured at 147lbs, had success as high as 174lbs vs V.Hill, an 18% weight gain, looked fit but not ripped at 174lbs…

Roy Jones Jr matured at 160lbs, had success up to 193lbs vs J.Ruiz, a 21% weight gain, looked ripped at 193lbs…

and finally there’s Manny Pacquiao, matured at 122lbs when he was 21yrs old, and has had success up to 144lbs vs M.Cotto, an 18% weight gain, looked ripped at 144lbs.

The top % weight gainers are in order R.Jones 21%, T.Hearns 18%, M.Pacquiao 18%, R.Duran 16%, F.Mayweather 15%, O.DeLaHoya 14%, P.Whittaker 14%…..Of these 7 names Duran and Whittaker looked fat at their highest weight, ONLY Jones and Pacquiao STILL looked ripped at their highest weight, and remember that Jones was later revealed to have used steroids in his career.

Of these 7 names Hearns was the tallest, at 6 foot 1 it’s a lot easier to put on weight, compared to Pacquiao who is the shortest of the 7 at 5 foot 6, yet Hearns and Pacquiao both put on 18% weight gains each.This is why knowledgeable people are suspecting Pacquiao of juicing, something is just not right here, a man should not gain 18% weight and stay ripped on boxing training while retaining all his speed and gaining power.

There’s an old saying in boxing that goes ”A great big man will beat a great small man always”, Pac has broken this golden rule of boxing by losing at the lighter weights to M.Singsurat, E.Morales and (IMO)J.M.Marquez twice, these were natural 112,122 and 126lbers, and now suddenly Pac is demolishing natural 135-140lbers D.Diaz, DLH, R.Hatton and M.Cotto with ease.

IMO Pac is on the juice, but due to UFC competition boxing needs the excitement and huge PPV buys right now, the truth will come out in the future when it doesn’t matter anymore.

http://ringtalk.com/manny-pacquiao-steroids-3-4

What steroid do you think that he's on?


What steroid is not detectable through urine? That's what we're really talking about here, you realize, no? He didn't want to take the OST tests, OST tests are essentially just blood tests to find HGH - a non-athletic drug anyways.

Please, to all the Pachaters, just tell me, what drug do you think that he's on?


If it's HGH, and you're complaining, you don't know what HGH is. If it's anything else, it's news to me.

[bojangles1987]

Not taking the drug tests at random has made people su****ious, and I won't argue about that. However, Pacquiao is no bigger, isn't knocking anyone out left or right, and is definitely slower. He weighs the exact same thing now that he did fighting at 126 and 130. I don't see it, at all.

People like to say he is all of a sudden knocking out welterweights, name one welterweight he has knocked out.

[007geyweather]

Yeah, vague for sure. But a little research never hurt anyone. And there will be plenty of opportunity to expand.

As far as the weight...whatever. The man went from 130 to 135 to a beastly welter (without even being a real welter) in three fights. And that was all after climbing another 7-8 divisions. And still ripped as ****. Yeah, weird. But not a reason to say for sure he's on PEDs. But it does raise questions.

Okay this ****** first discredit Pacquiaos win over Oscar and now he is giving this ****.. you should just *** your dog up his a$$..

YOU *****S ARE ******ED!

[PACnPBFsuck]

Not taking the drug tests at random has made people su****ious, and I won't argue about that. However, Pacquiao is no bigger, isn't knocking anyone out left or right, and is definitely slower. He weighs the exact same thing now that he did fighting at 126 and 130. I don't see it, at all.

People like to say he is all of a sudden knocking out welterweights, name one welterweight he has knocked out.

He TKO'ed Cotto right?

[Pu$$yKiller]

What is their body fat, and water level when they all made weight?

What do their bodies look like?

How hard do they train?

[AFighter4U]

He TKO'ed Cotto right?

It was a technical knock out. Meaning, though he actually didn't knock cotto out, the referee obviously thought it was unnecessary to continue since cotto wasn't in any way gonna win the fight nor have the capacity to get a lucky punch AND get injured when he no longer has the capacity to fight or defend himself.

David Diaz described it perfectly. According to him, he could easily take Pac's punches, but its the accumulation of the punches that get to you.

[Pu$$yKiller]

Floyd looked damn ripped in the Oscar weigh in. 15% weight gain and this:



We all know Floyd goes on vacation etc... and comes back strong.

There were athletes who use to have breaks and come in strong. Everyone would think wow what the hell did they do, they won gold, and guess what? They use to have time off and train hidden away with drugs.