Why a lot of people think Pac is juicing? Look inside ...

[Khalid X]

If he was ballooning up 14 lbs from 130 then he was walking around at about 14 lbs over 130 (or more). That 14 lbs would have been mostly fat. You could see how fat his face was before trimming down in weight in many of his fights. There is no doubt that he was carrying fat prior to training down to 130.

Now he's actually weighing in at about 145 and only going up 2 or 3 lbs. This means he's at his walking around weight. Being at his walking around weight we should be seeing that extra fat that he does not have to burn off. However, WE DON'T! He is SHREDDED!

I would say he walks around at about at about 156 rather than 144. He indeed added straight muscle because he still has a little more fat on his face prior to training camp.

Thanks for supporting my case against the Crackman.

By this reply I can tell you don't know **** about cutting weight or boxing for that manner.

[PacquiaoATG]

If he was ballooning up 14 lbs from 130 then he was walking around at about 14 lbs over 130 (or more). That 14 lbs would have been mostly fat. You could see how fat his face was before trimming down in weight in many of his fights. There is no doubt that he was carrying fat prior to training down to 130.

Now he's actually weighing in at about 145 and only going up 2 or 3 lbs. This means he's at his walking around weight. Being at his walking around weight we should be seeing that extra fat that he does not have to burn off. However, WE DON'T! He is SHREDDED!

I would say he walks around at about at about 156 rather than 144. He indeed added straight muscle because he still has a little more fat on his face prior to training camp.

Thanks for supporting my case against the Crackman.

So that makes him his on PED just like you saying? If that's the case Floyd Mayweather Jr. is on PED too. Because Pacquiao and Floyd both started 106 lbs in boxing.

[Eaner0919]

Natas this is true, but Floyd climbed slowly. He was at 140 for years and then when he went to 147 he wasn't a true welter until recently. Manny went from 130 to a full fledged welter in under two years with one pit stop.

actually he went from 129 to 145 in 9 months not two years

and watch that guy with the fight night weight pics is going to come in

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[Kris Silver]

No need to edit, if you want to take shots at me go ahead. Thats usually what happens around here.

Not at all dude, I edited that out because it was not clear whom I was referring to. I have no problem at all saying it was Buffalo.

Your posts have been the most valuable on that side of the argument in this topic, and your last post makes some good points too.

I don't disagree team Pac haven't at times slightly watered the seeds some of the Mayweathers and others have laid.

But then it makes more sense to me then, that that's because they're innocent, not that they're guilty.

If there is a guide book on how to act if accused of doing PED's, they would have read it and not said such things.

They're not clued up on the topic, trying to be anything, or guilty of anything.

The psycho analysis whilst interesting, does as much to undo the claims, as it does try to further water this bitter seed.

[Doctor_Tenma]

Natas this is true, but Floyd climbed slowly. He was at 140 for years and then when he went to 147 he wasn't a true welter until recently. Manny went from 130 to a full fledged welter in under two years with one pit stop.

Its a slow process, some people dont understand that. Take Soto for example, he still doesn't look like a LW but he's slowly starting to look like one.

[PacquiaoATG]

Natas this is true, but Floyd climbed slowly. He was at 140 for years and then when he went to 147 he wasn't a true welter until recently. Manny went from 130 to a full fledged welter in under two years with one pit stop.

Another idiot... Please explain...



Pacquiao is welterweight or Jr. Welterweight for years too...

[Buffalo]

Pacquiao needs a ton of calories to keep up with his training. Just because he has to eats more calories than the average person, it doesn't mean he won't be starving. 3000 calories may be a lot of you, but it's very little for pacquiao.

reading compehension buddy

[AFighter4U]

Not at all dude, I edited that out because it was not clear whom I was referring to. I have no problem at all saying it was Buffalo.

Your posts have been the most valuable on that side of the argument in this topic, and your last post makes some good points too.

I don't disagree team Pac haven't at times slightly watered the seeds some of the Mayweathers and others have laid.

But then it makes more sense to me then, that that's because they're innocent, not that they're guilty.

If there is a guide book on how to act if accused of doing PED's, they would have read it and not said such things.

They're not clued up on the topic, trying to be anything, or guilty of anything.

The psycho analysis whilst interesting, does as much to undo the claims, as it does try to further water this bitter seed.

now that's deep.

[ИATAS]

Natas this is true, but Floyd climbed slowly. He was at 140 for years and then when he went to 147 he wasn't a true welter until recently. Manny went from 130 to a full fledged welter in under two years with one pit stop.

he was at 140 for a year bro. He fought gatti, Bruseles, corley.

Pac's circumstances were a little different though I think his intentions were to slowly go up but was kind of forced due to unique opportunities (Oscar after the Diaz figth). That basically changed everything.

If Oscar was an option for Floyd earlier in his career let's say when he was still at 140 I'm sure Floyd would have done the same thing, and he would have kicked everyones ass just the same because he's that good.

[check hook]

actually he went from 129 to 145 in 9 months not two years

and watch that guy with the fight night weight pics is going to come in

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True i forgot the ODLH fight. The fight night pics are useless. Half the 130 pounders would make 130 and come in at 145+ on the night....did this make them effective as a WW?? Hell no!!! they tell us nothing at all.