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  • WESS
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    #131
    Originally posted by JoeMan
    Ducking is much worse than losing, believe it or not. The danger
    here for Floyd is that he would remain as the boxer who ducked
    Pacquiao. Funny thing is, these Mayweathers act as if the offer
    is always there for them. Floyd Jr could at least have the decency
    to end the speculation by announcing he would never fight Pac.
    Pac may decide to retire after his fight with Mosley, win or lose.
    lol For one, Mayweather doesnt have to do anything. Just because you or anyone wants something doesnt mean its going to happen. Ducking is both ways there jr. Pac walked the first time. Mayweather went on vacation the second time. End of story silly billy.

    Again, no matter what he does he will be bashed until years after his retirement. If you think he gets respect when and if he beats Pac you are wrong. The search will continue until he loses or retires. Until then "fans" wont be satisfied and beating Pac wont be it. It only gets worse.

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    • al-Xander
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      #132
      Originally posted by WESS
      lol For one, Mayweather doesnt have to do anything. Just because you or anyone wants something doesnt mean its going to happen. Ducking is both ways there jr. Pac walked the first time. Mayweather went on vacation the second time. End of story silly billy.

      Again, no matter what he does he will be bashed until years after his retirement. If you think he gets respect when and if he beats Pac you are wrong. The search will continue until he loses or retires. Until then "fans" wont be satisfied and beating Pac wont be it. It only gets worse.
      Actually, Floyd has the perfect opportunity to erase all the
      ducking accusations against him by beating Pac, the man
      he calls easy work, easy money. A lot of fans agree with
      him -- that he can beat Pac. Unfortunately for his fans, the
      interest to fight Pac is just not there.

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      • LeadUppercut
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        #133
        Originally posted by JoeMan
        Ducking is much worse than losing, believe it or not. The danger here for Floyd is that he would remain as the boxer who ducked
        Pacquiao.
        Funny thing is, these Mayweathers act as if the offer
        is always there for them. Floyd Jr could at least have the decency
        to end the speculation by announcing he would never fight Pac.
        Pac may decide to retire after his fight with Mosley, win or lose.
        Rubbish !!

        History will reflect that Pacquiao killed the fight because he would not submit to random blood testing without a 24 day cut-off.....
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        You fan-boy's are a joke, the way that you try to re-write history

        Currently, if an amateur athlete avoids or obstructs an OST request, they are JUDGED GUILTY, by the sanctioning body, and by the public in general.

        THE SAME WILL HAPPEN in a few years, because OST will be mandatory at that point in time.

        In the future, boxing fans will wonder why Manny insisted upon a cut-off date for OST's. It will seem bizarre, because.....
        a.) there is no such thing as a cut-off date for OST's
        b.) EVERYBODY will be taking OST's as per regulation, at that point in time

        Pacquiao has tainted his legacy. History will reflect that Pacquiao ducked Mayweather, and he would not prove that he is a clean fighter.

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          #134
          Originally posted by Pullcounter
          boxing don't need wifebeater. when he retired, everyone moved on. what people really want is pac vs wifebeater. if wifebeater doesn't fight pac, he might as well retire for good.
          Its haters like you boxing doesnt need , your nothing but a negative computer nerd that enjoys to attack anything about him you can , if people just accepted the charateristics of individuals in the sport with an open mind by leaving their personal life out of it and concentrated on what goes on in the ring boxing would be better for it .

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          • al-Xander
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            #135
            Originally posted by LeadUppercut
            Rubbish !!

            Pacquiao has tainted his legacy. History will reflect that Pacquiao ducked Mayweather, and he would not prove that he is a clean fighter.
            Naa. The general impression will always be that Floyd is ducking
            the fight. (I don't know which planet you're posting from.) Just
            like I said this Pac opportunity may suddenly disappear for Floyd
            with a host of reasons, health, accidents, physical disability (for
            both), political assassination, etc. And the alternative is Sergio
            Martinez, a much bigger guy who I believe is much harder for
            Floyd to beat.

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            • Mr. Philadel
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              #136
              the sport of boxing will do fine without Floyd...but it will do even better with him imo....at the end of the day our sport is a business and Floyd generates big business

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                #137
                Originally posted by JoeMan
                Actually, Floyd has the perfect opportunity to erase all the
                ducking accusations against him by beating Pac, the man
                he calls easy work, easy money. A lot of fans agree with
                him -- that he can beat Pac. Unfortunately for his fans, the
                interest to fight Pac is just not there.
                Exactly, until after the fact. Which was my initial point. The search/which hunt will continue, you'll see because it happens every time.

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                • LeadUppercut
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                  #138
                  Originally posted by JoeMan
                  Naa. The general impression will always be that Floyd is ducking
                  the fight. (I don't know which planet you're posting from.) Just
                  like I said this Pac opportunity may suddenly disappear for Floyd
                  with a host of reasons, health, accidents, physical disability (for
                  both), political assassination, etc. And the alternative is Sergio
                  Martinez, a much bigger guy who I believe is much harder for
                  Floyd to beat.
                  The " general impression " is not compiled by a few *******s.

                  As I said, there is plenty of evidence to prove that Pacquiao killed that fight because he would not submit to random blood testing without a 24 day cut-off.....
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                  BTW, just out of interest..... Team Pacquiao gave a total of 6 ridiculous excuses as to why Manny would not submit to random blood testing - which is a total fkn joke. Requiring 6 different excuses means that none of them were genuine, they just didn't want to take blood tests, simple as that......

                  Joe, tell me..... which one of those 6 ridiculous excuses did you believe ?

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                  • Rickyboy
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                    #139
                    "Rubbish !!

                    History will reflect that Pacquiao killed the fight because he would not submit to random blood testing without a 24 day cut-off....."


                    I am objective enough to admit I am unable to predict the future, NOBODY can so you cant say this for sure what world history will reflect. What I can say is this was in the past so is essentially history and it is still viewed that Mayweather tried to dictate new laws to boxing rather than Pacquaio avoiding anything. No other boxer has to submit to Mayweathers tests in any other fight round the world not involving Mayweather.If Mayweather dictated that his opponents had to fight one-legged would you find it a tad strange?or just say the opponent didnt take the challenge?Every boxer is unclean given your argument as they dont have to do Mayweathers tests. A boxer should not be able to stipulate the rules, they cant be judge jury and executioner

                    Fact is Mayweather see's how Pac boxes and knows he would lose to the current Pac so he accuses him of being on steroids.If Mayweather is really is good as he claims to be he would let that "midget" have his roids, Mayweather would come in heavier and beat him. Fact is Mayweather is scared otherwise there would have been no excuses.

                    Good boxers in the past have faced opponents on PED's and beaten them. Mayweather is not in the class of these boxers though and Pac is not on PED's.

                    The fact of the matter is no boxing council has requested these tests so history SHOULD (I say should as again, I cannot predict the future) show that Mayweather tried to change the rules of the game to avoid fighting. Alternatively it will show that Pac always adhered to the rules of the game and was never found to be on PED's.

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                    • LeadUppercut
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                      #140
                      Originally posted by Rickyboy
                      "Rubbish !!

                      History will reflect that Pacquiao killed the fight because he would not submit to random blood testing without a 24 day cut-off....."


                      I am objective enough to admit I am unable to predict the future, NOBODY can so you cant say this for sure what world history will reflect. What I can say is this was in the past so is essentially history and it is still viewed that Mayweather tried to dictate new laws to boxing rather than Pacquaio avoiding anything. No other boxer has to submit to Mayweathers tests in any other fight round the world not involving Mayweather.If Mayweather dictated that his opponents had to fight one-legged would you find it a tad strange?or just say the opponent didnt take the challenge?Every boxer is unclean given your argument as they dont have to do Mayweathers tests. A boxer should not be able to stipulate the rules, they cant be judge jury and executioner

                      Fact is Mayweather see's how Pac boxes and knows he would lose to the current Pac so he accuses him of being on steroids.If Mayweather is really is good as he claims to be he would let that "midget" have his roids, Mayweather would come in heavier and beat him. Fact is Mayweather is scared otherwise there would have been no excuses.

                      Good boxers in the past have faced opponents on PED's and beaten them. Mayweather is not in the class of these boxers though and Pac is not on PED's.

                      The fact of the matter is no boxing council has requested these tests so history SHOULD (I say should as again, I cannot predict the future) show that Mayweather tried to change the rules of the game to avoid fighting. Alternatively it will show that Pac always adhered to the rules of the game and was never found to be on PED's.
                      Rubbish, you just regurgitated the same old whiney excuse.....
                      " blah, blah, blah, Floyd requested "new laws to boxing" blah, blah "....

                      Grow up. Many fighters have undertaken OST's, they are mandatory in ALL top amateur sporting codes, including boxing. OST's are harmless.

                      What a ****ty childish excuse that is. Actually, I insist that you tell me the real reason why you think that Manny Pacquiao refused random blood tests.

                      But first, let's address that ridiculous " ducking " issue.....

                      Oh wait, you mean..... when Mayweather insisted that Shane Mosley undertake OST's before their fight, that was just Floyd's way of ducking Mosley?

                      Because, he knew Shane wouldn't accept those ridiculous demands right ?

                      Jeez, Mayweather was lucky.....
                      just imagine if Shane had called his bluff and taken those nasty tests

                      It is absolutely ridiculous for you to think that the OST request was a duck.

                      The following "duck" excuses are ALL better than your one..........

                      FLOYD: " **** off, you're not getting 50% "
                      FLOYD: " **** off, 10 million per pound overweight is ridiculous "
                      FLOYD: " **** off, you're not a draw "
                      FLOYD: " **** off, you've had too many losses "
                      FLOYD: " **** off..... just **** off "

                      If Mayweather wanted a way out of that fight, do you really think that he would have accepted 50/50? or that silly 10mil per pound demand?

                      He would have used one of five excuses, and ALL of them would be better than your one..... because, Manny could have simply taken the test.

                      * OST's are HARMLESS !!
                      * OST's will be mandatory within a couple of decades
                      * OST's are mandatory NOW in ALL top amateur sports

                      But this is the main point.....
                      * Currently, if an amateur athlete avoids or obstructs an OST request, they are JUDGED GUILTY, by the sanctioning body, and by the public in general.

                      THE SAME WILL HAPPEN in a few years, because OST will be mandatory at that point in time.

                      In the future, boxing fans will wonder why Manny insisted upon a cutoff date. That will seem bizarre, because.....
                      a.) there is no such thing as a cut-off date for OST's
                      b.) EVERYBODY will be taking OST's as per regulation, at that point in time

                      Team Pacquiao gave a total of 6 ridiculous excuses why Manny would not undertake random blood tests - which is a fkn joke. Requiring 6 different excuses means that none of them were any good, they just didn't want to take blood tests simple as that......

                      Floyd was toeing the line..... WHERE THE *** WAS MANNY ?

                      Ricky, tell me..... which one of those 6 ridiculous excuses did you believe ?

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