Funny how Lewis fans justify.........

[Pullcounter]

Funny....last I CHECKED kLITSCHko now is a year older than Lewis was in that fight & is dominating everyone he fights..so what's out of his prime for one fighter is not for another...interesting.

the current HW division is garbage. you can't really compare the 2.

Oh & coming in at your highest weight against the best & biggest fighter you've ever faced...i guess it's Klitschko's fault. Lewis gets a pass here because he didn't come into the fight in his peak shape but the blame goes to Vitali for this & NOT on Lewis

it's not vitaly's fault that LL was overweight, but the fact still remains that LL was overweight.

& let's conveniently forget the fact that this extra 4 or 5 lbs of muscle actually helped him in the fight by pushing his weight on Vitali.. WITHOUT those 5 lbs his punch resistance might've been worse & Vitali WOULD've had an easier time roughing him up.... so this extra weight might've possibly kept him in the fight.

that's one theory, now please prove how LL adding on extra pounds has helped him in the past with real life examples from LL's career.

the consensus is that the weight was a symptom of a lackadaisical LL who undertrained. my proof every LL fight where he fought and wasn't overweight. he whupped everyone he ever fought.

Both there staminas were gone by the 6th rd so there's no way in hell Lewis would've fared any better in that department with 5 to 7 lbs less anyway given the pace of the fight & all the brawling & punching that was going on......

that's the whole point. his lack of stamina was caused by him undertraining. the extra pounds is the sign that he didn't train properly

Let's stop using these excuses for LENNOX.. tHE FACT THAT he doesn;t come into shape for championship fights is Klitschko's fault? Vitali Klitschko come into shape in everyone of his 43 fights no matter who the opponent was but we don't hear about that..

it's not vitaly's fault, but it is fact that LL undertrained for that fight

We go on glorifying the fact that Lewis didn't come ready to fight in 2 of his biggest fights & give him a pass for that. PART OF BEING A GREAT & DOMINANT FIGHTER IS COMING INTO YOUR FIGHTS IN OPTIMAL SHAPE..

no one is glorifying it. LL gets a pass because it's obvious he wasn't in great shape. LL's greatness and dominance was established way before he ever fought vitaly. one fight doesn't mess up LL's legacy.

hOLYFIELD & tHE kLITSCHKO'S should be commended for this & when there opponents comeNOT in shape...they shouldn't be peanalized for something that was NOT in their control.

no one is penalizing vitaly, but he did in fact fight an overweight and undertrained vitaly.

Ever stop & think all these fighters put on the extra padding because they're intimidated BY vITALI'S size & want to have as much weight as possible to absorb the pounding that his lethal jab will surely give them?

once again, that's 1 theory. now prove it by citing examples where LL purposefully put on weight to deal with absorbing punches from a hard puncher.

There you have it all these supposed lies & myths have been exposed.. do with it what you will!

you didn't do anything to expose anything. try harder.

[THUG LIFE]

A fat, old, out of shape, unmotivated Lennox Lewis beat a prime Vitali Klitschko fair and square. In his prime Lewis would have knocked him out.

[PrinceNaz88]

A fat, old, out of shape, unmotivated Lennox Lewis beat a prime Vitali Klitschko fair and square. In his prime Lewis would have knocked him out.

I agree. Vitali probably wouldn't of had a face left.

[jimmy1569]

the current HW division is garbage. you can't really compare the 2.


it's not vitaly's fault that LL was overweight, but the fact still remains that LL was overweight.


that's one theory, now please prove how LL adding on extra pounds has helped him in the past with real life examples from LL's career.

the consensus is that the weight was a symptom of a lackadaisical LL who undertrained. my proof every LL fight where he fought and wasn't overweight. he whupped everyone he ever fought.


that's the whole point. his lack of stamina was caused by him undertraining. the extra pounds is the sign that he didn't train properly


it's not vitaly's fault, but it is fact that LL undertrained for that fight


no one is glorifying it. LL gets a pass because it's obvious he wasn't in great shape. LL's greatness and dominance was established way before he ever fought vitaly. one fight doesn't mess up LL's legacy.


no one is penalizing vitaly, but he did in fact fight an overweight and undertrained vitaly.


once again, that's 1 theory. now prove it by citing examples where LL purposefully put on weight to deal with absorbing punches from a hard puncher.


you didn't do anything to expose anything. try harder.

that's one theory, now please prove how LL adding on extra pounds has helped him in the past with real life examples from LL's career.
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Nice try son...but this was the only time where he added a few lbs & his opponent was bigger than him & it would be to his benefit to carry more lbs on his frame. He was leaning on Vitali all night with that weight & this was an aid ... not a detriment plus the fact that it added extra padding onto his glass jaw so he'd be able to absorb Vitali's bombs........ this almost never gets mentioned

the consensus is that the weight was a symptom of a lackadaisical LL who undertrained. my proof every LL fight where he fought and wasn't overweight. he whupped everyone he ever fought.
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I guess he was overweight for the first Mccall fight as wll... or for that matter the Mercer fight & let's not forget the Holy SEQUEL.

no one is penalizing vitaly, but he did in fact fight an overweight and undertrained vitaly.
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i'LL pass on this one for obvious reasons... lol



once again, that's 1 theory. now prove it by citing examples where LL purposefully put on weight to deal with absorbing punches from a hard puncher.
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Dude... it;s the first time he's faced someone bigger..taller than him..coming in at the highest weight possible was a ploy..not a lack of training...trust me 2 weeks earlier he was 7 lbs lighter for Johnson..as soon as he heard Dr.Ironfist was coming to town..he hit the weights while Vitali's WEIGHT WAS the same for Boswell 2 weeks prior..nothing changed for him.

Oh & let us NOT forget WE HAVE complete proof that 6 or 7 out of the last 8 fighters Vitali FACED HAVE COME IN using the same strategy as Lennox..alot of good that did them but when a fighter thinks that's his only chanc e he will come in with the extra padding TO better absorb the lethal fists of VK... sOSNOWSKI was a gym rat & didn't know any better. & KJ was a defensive fool & trusted his stellar D same AS bYRD.

tHANKS for playing...but you're NOT dealing here with an amateur son.... I bring evidence into the equation with the occasional opinion... kapish!

[Pullcounter]

Nice try son...but this was the only time where he added a few lbs & his opponent was bigger than him

exactly. so without proof, you're theory remains a theory.

here's my rebuttal against you're theory:

LL has fought big punchers before, bigger punchers than vitaly, but he didn't bulk up for them.

also, LL fought michael grant who was as big as LL was and he didn't put on any extra weight.

LL took vitaly on short notice. he was supposed to fight someone else. so LL wouldn't have had any time to plan a head and purposefully bulk up the way you explain it.

the only explanation therefore is that LL was indeed overweight and undertrained.

& it would be to his benefit to carry more lbs on his frame. He was leaning on Vitali all night with that weight & this was an aid ... not a detriment plus the fact that it added extra padding onto his glass jaw so he'd be able to absorb Vitali's bombs........ this almost never gets mentioned

more theories. please prove it with actual proof from LL's career.

I guess he was overweight for the first Mccall fight as wll... or for that matter the Mercer fight & let's not forget the Holy SEQUEL.

didn't get to see the first fight with mccall cause that was before I really started watching boxing. same for the mercer fights.

dunno why you bring up the holyfield rematch. LL won that won.

Dude... it;s the first time he's faced someone bigger..taller than him..coming in at the highest weight possible was a ploy..not a lack of training...trust me 2 weeks earlier he was 7 lbs lighter for Johnson..as soon as he heard Dr.Ironfist was coming to town..he hit the weights while Vitali's WEIGHT WAS the same for Boswell 2 weeks prior..nothing changed for him.

nice theory, now prove it.

Oh & let us NOT forget WE HAVE complete proof that 6 or 7 out of the last 8 fighters Vitali FACED HAVE COME IN using the same strategy as Lennox..alot of good that did them but when a fighter thinks that's his only chanc e he will come in with the extra padding TO better absorb the lethal fists of VK... sOSNOWSKI was a gym rat & didn't know any better. & KJ was a defensive fool & trusted his stellar D same AS bYRD.

that doesn't prove anything. you need to prove it from LL's career.

tHANKS for playing...but you're NOT dealing here with an amateur son.... I bring evidence into the equation with the occasional opinion... kapish!

you bring nothing but opinions and conjecture. you lack any definite proof from LL's career; instead you extrapolate from other boxers and try to fit LL into their mold without even establishing that LL exhibited similar behavior.

you are an amatuer.

[jimmy1569]

exactly. so without proof, you're theory remains a theory.

here's my rebuttal against you're theory:

LL has fought big punchers before, bigger punchers than vitaly, but he didn't bulk up for them.

also, LL fought michael grant who was as big as LL was and he didn't put on any extra weight.

LL took vitaly on short notice. he was supposed to fight someone else. so LL wouldn't have had any time to plan a head and purposefully bulk up the way you explain it.

the only explanation therefore is that LL was indeed overweight and undertrained.


more theories. please prove it with actual proof from LL's career.


didn't get to see the first fight with mccall cause that was before I really started watching boxing. same for the mercer fights.

dunno why you bring up the holyfield rematch. LL won that won.


nice theory, now prove it.


that doesn't prove anything. you need to prove it from LL's career.


you bring nothing but opinions and conjecture. you lack any definite proof from LL's career; instead you extrapolate from other boxers and try to fit LL into their mold without even establishing that LL exhibited similar behavior.

you are an amatuer.

Bottom Line..son is that Vitali was dominating the fight pre-cut & breaKIng even post cut.. Those are facts & almost everyone even the avid Klitschko hater will admit that this is exactly what happened. You GUYS all hold lewis to another level & make excuses for his performance that night. I got news for you guys...there were 2 top 10 alltime heavies in that ring that night..not one... & one wasn't allowed to continue & not granted a rematch. Klitschko wanted to fight in both instances to prove he was better than Lewis...period. He did not get afforded this opportunity...

So all WE HAVE to go on is 6 rds between them..a half a fight where Klitschko was winning 2/3 of it (fact) & landed 2/3 of all the punches that connected in the fight (fact)... lost on TKO at the end of 6th rd (fact)..would've won if the fight would've stopped 3 minutes later (fact) That's how thin the line was between victory & defeat & i'd beg to quip about the rules..what difference does another rd make when you've completed half the fight. Fight should've went to the scorecards at the end of 6 or called a no contest. 6 rds were in the books..said fighter that got Tko'ed was holding his own...landing & throwing more punches than Lewis every rd but gets told he has to lose because of concern for his health.

Well if you're going to stop it after said conditions award him the decision as he certainly earned it or let it go 1 more rd & that's what would've hap[pened anyways. They were taking care of that cut in between rds & trust me they all knew 1 more freakin' rd & IT WOULD be LENNOX who loses his title. I think there was a little corruption going on there where peeps didn't want that belt changing hands & they used that cut as an excuse to stop the fight. They were pobably banking on Lennox stopping him in the 5th or 6th rd & when that didn't happen...they stopped the fight as after the 7th rd.. it;d be Klitschko holding all the cards.

[BoxingTech718]

Lewis was old and out of shaped. Despite being far out of prime he still roughed up your boy. Don't be mad son just be glad prime Lewis isn't around today.

[Gojira]

This guy thinks that by putting on a couple of more pounds, LL was able to have a greater punch resistance.

[Joeyzagz]

Losing to Lennox Lewis is the highlight of Vitali's career. He is like the ******ed kid who ALMOST scored a goal, but tripped on his own shoe laces.

Poor guy cant even floor Lennox's leftovers...ouch!

[jimmy1569]

Losing to Lennox Lewis is the highlight of Vitali's career. He is like the ******ed kid who ALMOST scored a goal, but tripped on his own shoe laces.

Poor guy cant even floor Lennox's leftovers...ouch!

Yeah but he can make reservations for him to stay at A posh hosptal for almost a week.... while he springs for the tab. Even LITTLE bro showed up to pay his condolences..so while the verdict says Vitali Won 12 rds to 0.... we all know who inflicted more of the pain Briggs's way. The only difference being after Vitali fought him.....you will never see Briggs in a ring again...this I guarantee you.. Shoot Vitali RETIRED both of them & all he gets is backtalk for the occasions. oNCE thy both had a dose of Vitali's beatdown.....they both didn't want to enter the squared circle ever again........ you done son???