Is Vitali Klitschko a top 10 heavyweight of all time?

[WladIsTheChamp]

My point was that just because the Klitschkos are great guys outside of the ring it doesnt enhance their abilites as fighters. The Klitsckos are gifted in terms of inteligence outside the ring and outside of it. Their isnt a relation between the two though. Alot of sports people are thick but are very clever at their sport. Mayweather is great at making adjustments in his fights. Thats why alot of people say hes got good boxing IQ. The Klitschkos are more dominant but their competiton P4P isnt as good.

Can't argue with that, just because you can pick up a book about boxing doesn't mean you can box. As Wladimir Klitschko says: "Everyone plays chess but no one is an expert. No one boxes but everyone is an expert." But that's the amazing thing about the Klitschkos that you said yourself, they are intelligent both in and out of the ring, which is not a claim that most boxers can make. Their intelligence outside the ring makes them better boxers inside the ring, they are the exception, not the rule.

[WladIsTheChamp]

you actually responded to that?

damn you're smart.

You actually compared your four year old neice to an Olympic gold medalist and undefeated WBA world champion in terms of skill level? Damn, you are a genius...

[the niggest]

I believe they are trolling, that is the only logical explanation for what they are saying.

I'm sorry but no, Klit-ites REALLY are this ******. That's why it's so fun baiting them with these types of threads... Everybody knows Vitali isn't a top 10 hw of all time, but shure enough these ****** klit fans will come in and tell you otherwise and try to prove it with aboslutley ridiclous things like "vitali has the highest ko%" "this is vitalis 2nd sport" and other irrelevant bull**** that really has no affect on the klitschkos atg status at all.

[Frogs!]

Tell your 4yr old niece, that Vitaly might fight here next....That is the level of competition that he likes to face. So tell her to train hard cuz Vitaly is no joke he has a high KO% and use to be kick boxing champ.

i'll wait till my niece turns 7.

she's still too young to be able to comprehend that winning every rd only means **** to ppl that's trying to justify a weak resume.

[Prince Boateng]

Im literaly laughing my head off watching these nuthuggers finds ways of claiming Vitaly is the GOAT.........

[young_robbed]

nope not even close man

[WladIsTheChamp]

That's because Mayweather and Hopkins fight's alot better competition than Wlad. what's next, are you gonna tell me Samuel Peter and Shannon Briggs where as good p4p wise as Jean Pascal or Shane Mosley?

What the hell is "p4p" anyway? Isn't it all subjective? Sam Peter was a world champ, Briggs was a two-time world champ, they are HWs so you are not going to see them dance around like 154 pound Mosley but they also carry a lot more power and punch will end things from them unlike one punch from Mosley. Point is, given their respective divisions, Hopkins and Mayweather don't dominate like the Klitschkos. Now you claim blame the bad era, the fact that the "best US athletes are playing football and badmintion", blame whatever, but if you take a look at the competition that the Klitschkos are dominating and stopping cold, and take a look at objectively, you will see they are ATGs.

Just look at Chagaev and Ibragimov, both Olympic medalists, both undefeated, both world champs when Wlad fought them and they couldn't take a round off Wlad. He is not beating some bums off the street, he is beating some serious pros with serious amateur pedigrees.

Watch, Wlad will be P4P #1 in the world in a couple of years. Just remember you heard it here first.

[IronDanHamza]

What the hell is "p4p" anyway? Isn't it all subjective? Sam Peter was a world champ, Briggs was a two-time world champ, they are HWs so you are not going to see them dance around like 154 pound Mosley but they also carry a lot more power and punch will end things from them unlike one punch from Mosley. Point is, given their respective divisions, Hopkins and Mayweather don't dominate like the Klitschkos. Now you claim blame the bad era, the fact that the "best US athletes are playing football and badmintion", blame whatever, but if you take a look at the competition that the Klitschkos are dominating and stopping cold, and take a look at objectively, you will see they are ATGs.

Just look at Chagaev and Ibragimov, both Olympic medalists, both undefeated, both world champs when Wlad fought them and they couldn't take a round off Wlad. He is not beating some bums off the street, he is beating some serious pros with serious amateur pedigrees.

Watch, Wlad will be P4P #1 in the world in a couple of years. Just remember you heard it here first.

But surely you understand beating Jean Pascal or Shane Mosley at the times they beat them is better than beating Peter and Briggs?

[Schmerzen]

its always the same, in every klitschko thread u have 3 klitschko haters & 3 klitschko nuthuggers insulting eachother.
while the nuthugger side is discrediting all the big names in heavweight history, the anti-klitschko side manages to keep up with them by doing the same thing with the current fighters in the hw-division.
its so predictable... i think we need a klitschko-talk only section on boxingscene.

[WladIsTheChamp]

WladIsTheChamp (aka Tunney) takes nuthugging to a new level. Even *******s and *****'s refrain from making certain claims that would make them look like complete morons, not the case with this fella. This guy thinks he's defending the Klitschko's, but in reality, he's running their names into the ground with his assault. I'm sure the Klitchko's wouldn't place them selves in history as high as this clown does. lol

Tunney's ALT's: SteelHammer2010 & WladIsTheChamp

The Klitschkos refuse to place themselves in history period, different culture. Eastern Europeans are usually more humble than Western Europeans or Americans. You are never going to hear them yell "I am the greatest", ever. Part of the reason why the Ali moniker stuck was because he used it so much, he was a great boxer but certainly not "The Greatest". However, realisticly looking at what these two brothers are doing, it's not hard to make a claim that they both have entered in the top 10 HW ATG list. With each victory their status is solidified and they move up that list. I know it pains you all haters to see that but that's what is happening. Even their most ardent critics are giving them respect, albeit grudgingly, but they still give it. That wasn't the case 4-5 years ago. The haters like you laughed when Klitschko fans like myself claimed he was p4p the best fighter 4 years ago, yet look where he is at now, #8 p4p.