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  • Rome-By-Ko
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    #51
    Originally posted by WhiskeyBottle!
    Who has Karass beat that gives you the impression that he'd walk all over Berto??????? Vince Phillips???? Gomez?????? Rome you are better than this bruh.

    As for Cotto's record at 140. Go to BoxRec and skim through the names. He had maybe three semi hard touches at 140 Bailey, N'Dou, and Corley. Yes the same Chop Chop that had his soul stolen by Floyd one fight before.

    Now Clottey hasn't looked good since he beat Chico(RIP). That there says enough in itself. I understand that you feel Berto's a hype job, but please dont forget the Boxing politics involved at this level Rome homie.

    I do agree that he should rematch Collazo, but I think Berto has grown, and you wont like the outcome of that fight TBH.
    Karass fought hard and punches hard as well Berto loves to square up it's his thing,he reminds me of Mosley or Meldrick Taylor he is just not as talented as either..Karass would hurt and most likely stop Berto unless Berto showed some heart and fought back like Mike Jones did..Oh yea who did Collazo beat??Nobody but when he got his shot he took advantage of it twice with Hatton and definitely with Berto..

    Cotto resume is good enough were he is talked about as too be going in to the HOF bro..I would never mistake Cotto's resume for Berto's,Cotto has never duck anybody if ya want to be honest and it's part why he is(at a young age)kinda shot now..Cotto get's all the respect from cause unlike some fighters who shall remain nameless he fought the fights we wanted to see..

    Clottey looked good against Cotto,was beating Marga's beat Zab's ass I think you don't want to give credit were it is due..Clottey is a good opponent for Berto no matter how ya slice it..


    I don't care about the outcome of a Collazo Berto rematch but I do care that it was not fought..

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      #52
      Originally posted by puga
      not to you but it was to me ....one thing that even mike jones admitted was he gave his everything in the early rounds thinking he could ko karass...he did'nt do enough after those bunch of punches.....
      Did you feel Karass won the last two rds??Fair enough my man everyone sees a different fight,but to use robbery in that fight is uncalled for imo..It was close and close fights are not robbery's..

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        #53
        Originally posted by romebyko
        When your on the come-up you take the fight that will help you name,55/45 was not a bad deal to fight Mosley,and it was what he was going to make when the fight was signed in the first place he duck Mosley man plan and simple..
        Yes its true, also on that time Berto and Shane are belt holders, like i said he's with Haymon, he's overprice fighter man, Al knows whats the best for Berto just look at Bertos previous fight since he won his title.

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          #54
          Originally posted by WhiskeyBottle!
          I am shocked that you would say such things Rome. Berto's sister was missing for 48hrs in Haiti, and he lost plenty of family members, not just a 3rd cuzzin bruh. But if thats how you feel, then thats how you feel. The 1st fight is not a duck. The negotiations for the 2nd fight coulda went better, but you just had Shane get his as$ handed to him by Floyd. If Shane wanted to maintain his marketability, then he should have fought with more spirit, instead of quiting mentally like I told you he had the propensity to do before the bout took place. Shane ****ed up his 50/50 split by being dogged and walked down by a smaller fighter.

          Oh and Kats lost that fight didnt he???????
          Oh wow he lost his sis for 48 hrs,did he find her ok then..I heard dude lost some cuzzins and that's rough for sure but you don't call off the biggest fight of ya life because of that you dedicate the fight to umm and fight ya heart out for your people..IMO that's the best ya could do for umm at that point is give umm hope..

          As far as what happen between May and Mosley,it was May and Mosley two big names dude Berto is still a new born dude..To ask Mosley for 50/50 when Mosley just sold mills of PPV buys and a sold out crowd imo was disrespect and showed right then and there he wanted none of Mosley..Oh and it still was his fault the fight did not happen the first time soo..It should have been the same deal and the fight would have been made..

          Kats lost the fight but won the fans and will be back for his effort he put forth,that outcome was gonna be the outcome no matter what tbh..

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          • Chief2ndzOnly!
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            #55
            Originally posted by romebyko
            Karass fought hard and punches hard as well Berto loves to square up it's his thing,he reminds me of Mosley or Meldrick Taylor he is just not as talented as either..Karass would hurt and most likely stop Berto unless Berto showed some heart and fought back like Mike Jones did..Oh yea who did Collazo beat??Nobody but when he got his shot he took advantage of it twice with Hatton and definitely with Berto..

            Cotto resume is good enough were he is talked about as too be going in to the HOF bro..I would never mistake Cotto's resume for Berto's,Cotto has never duck anybody if ya want to be honest and it's part why he is(at a young age)kinda shot now..Cotto get's all the respect from cause unlike some fighters who shall remain nameless he fought the fights we wanted to see..

            Clottey looked good against Cotto,was beating Marga's beat Zab's ass I think you don't want to give credit were it is due..Clottey is a good opponent for Berto no matter how ya slice it..


            I don't care about the outcome of a Collazo Berto rematch but I do care that it was not fought..
            Clottey should have won against Cotto, but he didn't. Why? Because he did not step it up and let Cotto coast, like he does in most of his fights. We all know that Margs is a 12 round fighter, so if you dont stop him or take the decision, than you cant say you beat him. Clottey did neither. I give you Zab, but Zab, is hit or miss TBH we both know that Rome mah homie. I agree Clottey is a good opponent, but he's just relegated to that now, an opponent. Just a half of a name on a resume now.

            I dont see Paul Williams on cotto's resume Rome. Why?

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              #56
              Originally posted by levz
              Yes its true, also on that time Berto and Shane are belt holders, like i said he's with Haymon, he's overprice fighter man, Al knows whats the best for Berto just look at Bertos previous fight since he won his title.
              Oh I've looked and I've been disgusted..

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                #57
                Arum says,"put Marquez in there with Berto to prove that he can beat a good ww". Instead of advising other promoters of what to do with their fighters, y don't he put Pac in there with Berto? Anyways Berto will prove nothing in beating Marquez. They will just discredit the win by saying JMM is not a true ww, just like when Floyd beat him. Arum looks at the way Marquez looked against Floyd and says that he can't sell that fight to the boxing public, but he has no problem selling a fight with Mosley who looked equally inaffective against the same fighter at WW. Then remember SSM moved back up to 54 after that fight. looks like to me they r back to their old tricks of picking the fighters that have to come down in weight to fight.

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                  #58
                  Berto needs to face a real opponent

                  Berto should face Marquez. He should not get a big fight with Pacquiao until he finally proves himself against a good fighter. He just got by against Collazo, the best competition he ever had. Collazo is a good fighter, but he is not elite competition. Berto will get destroyed by Marquez, Cotto, or Pacquiao anyway. He is ready for bums and is not ready for the big time yet

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Chief2ndzOnly!
                    Clottey should have won against Cotto, but he didn't. Why? Because he did not step it up and let Cotto coast, like he does in most of his fights. We all know that Margs is a 12 round fighter, so if you dont stop him or take the decision, than you cant say you beat him. Clottey did neither. I give you Zab, but Zab, is hit or miss TBH we both know that Rome mah homie. I agree Clottey is a good opponent, but he's just relegated to that now, an opponent. Just a half of a name on a resume now.

                    I dont see Paul Williams on cotto's resume Rome. Why?
                    What's good Chiefy my main man..If Clottey is just an opponent now so be it he should still be Berto's opponent..I threw out many names not just his but JMM is unacceptable..

                    As for why Pwilly was not on Cotto's resume I don't know maybe the same reason he is not on Mosley's,Mayweathers,or Pacs..

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                    • Chief2ndzOnly!
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by romebyko
                      Oh wow he lost his sis for 48 hrs,did he find her ok then..I heard dude lost some cuzzins and that's rough for sure but you don't call off the biggest fight of ya life because of that you dedicate the fight to umm and fight ya heart out for your people..IMO that's the best ya could do for umm at that point is give umm hope..

                      As far as what happen between May and Mosley,it was May and Mosley two big names dude Berto is still a new born dude..To ask Mosley for 50/50 when Mosley just sold mills of PPV buys and a sold out crowd imo was disrespect and showed right then and there he wanted none of Mosley..Oh and it still was his fault the fight did not happen the first time soo..It should have been the same deal and the fight would have been made..

                      Kats lost the fight but won the fans and will be back for his effort he put forth,that outcome was gonna be the outcome no matter what tbh..
                      NSB has turned you cold lil bro.

                      We both can agree that Boxing is ATLEAST 85% mental right? As a fan. I dont want a Boxer to step in the ring after he knows that he aint right(Thats a recipe for disaster). The fight in Jan of 2K10 with Shane would've made or broke Andre's career true? I have no problem calling off the bout, if his head and heart wasn't 100% there. Thats his life he's playin with.

                      Mosely threw 50/50 outta the window with the performance he put on against Floyd, bottomline. Shane DUCKED PWill, Andre demolished the only man(at the time)that could claim a victory over the man Shane blatently DUCKED.

                      Sure for the sake of Boxing Berto shoulda took an even split and proved what he had. But I can see why he aint.

                      Kats always had a huge fan base, his fighting style ensures such.

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