Comments Thread For: Arum: Pacquiao Would Have Waited For Mayweather Jr.

[ALG United]

Mayweather already gave Pacquiao and Arum the indication that they wanted "OSDT or no fight"

Manny Pacquiao: “I feel like I don’t need Mayweather to make my career. I fought the best and anyone willing to face me. I want it, and feel the fans deserve the Mayweather fight. I want to prove to everyone that it wasn’t me who didn’t want the fight. That’s why I made the concession to take anything [blood tests] he wants at any time. Even during the fight before the sixth round if he wanted! What else can I do? I hope we get the fight done soon. Let’s get it on.”

http://beatsboxingmayhem.wordpress.com/2010/11/12/manny-pacquiao-politics-as-usual/

[ALG United]

Why did you reply to that post, but not bother to answer the question?

Answer my question please.....

It is absolutely ridiculous for you to think that the OST request was a duck.

The following "duck" excuses are ALL better than your one..........

FLOYD: " **** off, you're not getting 50% "
FLOYD: " **** off, 10 million per pound overweight is ridiculous "
FLOYD: " **** off, you're not a draw "
FLOYD: " **** off, you've had too many losses "
FLOYD: " **** off..... just **** off "

If Mayweather wanted a way out of that fight, do you really think that he would have accepted 50/50? or that silly 10mil per pound demand?

He would have used one of five excuses, and ALL of them would be better than your one..... because, Manny could have simply taken the test.

* OST's are HARMLESS !!
* OST's will be mandatory within a couple of decades
* OST's are mandatory NOW in ALL top amateur sports

But this is the main point.....
* Currently, if an amateur athlete avoids or obstructs an OST request, they are JUDGED GUILTY, by the sanctioning body, and by the public in general.

THE SAME WILL HAPPEN in a few years, because OST will be mandatory at that point in time.

In the future, boxing fans will wonder why Manny insisted upon a cut-off date - which will seem bizarre, because.....
a.) there is no such thing as a cut-off date for OST's
b.) EVERYBODY will be taking OST's as per regulation, at that point in time

Team Pacquiao gave a total of 6 ridiculous excuses why Manny would not undertake random blood tests - which is a fkn joke. Requiring 6 different excuses means that none of them were any good, they just didn't want to take blood tests simple as that......

Floyd was toeing the line..... WHERE THE *** WAS MANNY ?

JSS, tell me..... which one of those 6 ridiculous excuses did you believe ?

Manny Pacquiao: “I feel like I don’t need Mayweather to make my career. I fought the best and anyone willing to face me. I want it, and feel the fans deserve the Mayweather fight. I want to prove to everyone that it wasn’t me who didn’t want the fight. That’s why I made the concession to take anything [blood tests] he wants at any time. Even during the fight before the sixth round if he wanted! What else can I do? I hope we get the fight done soon. Let’s get it on.”

http://beatsboxingmayhem.wordpress.com/2010/11/12/manny-pacquiao-politics-as-usual/

[KRITKL]

These quotes show me who really wanted to fight.



Arum considers Floyd "pretty fast" and a "master boxer" and
just Pac being "Unorthodox"]

OK, arum thinks highly of Floyd. Wow, who doesn't.

Come on man! Get a clue. If you were Mayweather. Would you
waste your time trying to fight a guy that his promoter won't let
fight? Bottomline is that Floyd should be fighting anyway.]

I think you would try to make it at least look like you want to fight the guy.

Team Pacquiao deaded the fight plain and simple. What else is
there to debate? The 2nd attempt was merely a serade to make
Manny seem like he didn't want to fight because of random blood
tests so he wouldn't look guilty. Pac said he agreed to everything
but Amir Kahn just blew him up as saying he is not mentally ready
for the OST's? Pac along with Arum and Roach is obvioulsy lying.]

I don't understand this post. Guilty of not wanting to fight Floyd? So Khan knows what Pac is thinking?

Manny Pacquiao the supposedly P4P#1 was immitating Floyd Mayweather
Jr? Pac ain't even in Floyd's league by trying to impersonate him to
get a feel for Mayweather's style.]

again, what are you saying? You think Floyd is #1? good for you, that's your opinion.

Team Pac has been coming up with excuses for the duration of the
1st negotiations. They had Floyd right where they wanted him. Why
didn't they just man up, agree to the tests and make the fight? Floyd
was taking the same tests. They made it seem like it was only Pac.]

Floyd had his excuses also. I also believe that Pac should of just agreed to the test then we might of had the fight we all are still waiting for. But he didn't and now Floyd is on vacation.
Everybody knows Floyd was going to take the same test.

All of these quotes make me believe that Arum, Manny and Roach
NEVER wanted this fight. Don't like to post so much but come on
Pac fans! Wake up! Manny is not as great as Arum is leading on.
A good fighter I admit but not so sure about being great considering
he hasn't fought anyone that has been dominate or coming off of
an impressive victory in a looooonnnnng time.]

Your not going to change anyones mind, but keep trying if you like.
We could how good Pac and Floyd are if they just fight each other.
Don't talk bad about Pac's last opponents, you thought that they all were going to win. I even tried to get some bets with you but never got a reply.



Damn grustler, take it easy man.
Your dislike of Pac(fans) is getting really bad.

[game20ver]

Right on Bobby! Right on!

[GRUSTLER]

OK, arum thinks highly of Floyd. Wow, who doesn't.





I think you would try to make it at least look like you want to fight the guy.





I don't understand this post. Guilty of not wanting to fight Floyd? So Khan knows what Pac is thinking?







again, what are you saying? You think Floyd is #1? good for you, that's your opinion.






Floyd had his excuses also. I also believe that Pac should of just agreed to the test then we might of had the fight we all are still waiting for. But he didn't and now Floyd is on vacation.
Everybody knows Floyd was going to take the same test.





Your not going to change anyones mind, but keep trying if you like.
We could how good Pac and Floyd are if they just fight each other.
Don't talk bad about Pac's last opponents, you thought that they all were going to win. I even tried to get some bets with you but never got a reply.



Damn grustler, take it easy man.
Your dislike of Pac(fans) is getting really bad.

Sorry buddy but no it's not because the majority of Pac
fans are on some bull****. I am just stating the obvious.
Them quotes show who wanted the fight. You know
the point I was making. Team Pac flip flopped through
this whole debacle. It's documented so I don't care
what anyone says especially Pac fans because at the
end of the day, I am posting what came right of their
mouths and me being a "sensible" man with "Common sense"
knows that Arum, Roach and Pac are full of ****. Forget
what I wrote under the quotes and just read the quotes
and it should be obvious to you as well. Floyd is wrong
for not giving us any fights in the ring but it is as plain as
day that Arum and Pac were lying about it the whole time.
Hell, Arum said that he wants Floyd to stay in retirement
to be as rusty as possible before he faces Pac! How much
more evidence you need without trying to make me sound
like it's personal? I'm just tired of the bull****! We are
grown ass people and should be treated like it. Instead
we are lied to and one person (Floyd) gets blamed for
everything while Manny enjoys is numerous victory over
wounded game, in the same company. Anyone can see
it's all a joke. Rather than see it for yourself, you instead
want to make it like I have a problem? Wow!

[KRITKL]

Sorry buddy but no it's not because the majority of Pac
fans are on some bull****. I am just stating the obvious.
Them quotes show who wanted the fight. You know
the point I was making. Team Pac flip flopped through
this whole debacle. It's documented so I don't care
what anyone says especially Pac fans because at the
end of the day, I am posting what came right of their
mouths and me being a "sensible" man with "Common sense"
knows that Arum, Roach and Pac are full of ****. Forget
what I wrote under the quotes and just read the quotes
and it should be obvious to you as well. Floyd is wrong
for not giving us any fights in the ring but it is as plain as
day that Arum and Pac were lying about it the whole time.
Hell, Arum said that he wants Floyd to stay in retirement
to be as rusty as possible before he faces Pac! How much
more evidence you need without trying to make me sound
like it's personal? I'm just tired of the bull****! We are
grown ass people and should be treated like it. Instead
we are lied to and one person (Floyd) gets blamed for
everything while Manny enjoys is numerous victory over
wounded game, in the same company. Anyone can see
it's all a joke. Rather than see it for yourself, you instead
want to make it like I have a problem? Wow!

OK grustler you know the truth behind why this fight isn't happening. Sorry I ever doubted you.

[WESS]

Who lied?

OK grustler you know the truth behind why this fight isn't happening. Sorry I ever doubted you.

"it is mental and I am not ready for that" - Khan quoting Pac

http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=34174

[KRITKL]

"it is mental and I am not ready for that" - Khan quoting Pac

http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=34174

senior after Pac agreed to testing during the 2nd negotioations that supposedly never took place.

Mayweather Sr, was asked about his recent statement of having reservations regarding his son fighting a southpaw. “It does not matter what stance Pacquiao fights, my son will never fight him”.

http://www.theboxinghistorian.com/news/010/7026-mayweather-sr.php

I can do this ****** game also.

[WESS]

senior after Pac agreed to testing during the 2nd negotioations that supposedly never took place.

Mayweather Sr, was asked about his recent statement of having reservations regarding his son fighting a southpaw. “It does not matter what stance Pacquiao fights, my son will never fight him”.

http://www.theboxinghistorian.com/news/010/7026-mayweather-sr.php

I can do this ****** game also.

******? Game? You mad silly goose?

What does Sr have to do with the contract that Floyd agreed to while Pac walked away because (insert 6 excuses)?

The second round of the "alleged" neagations, Pac "agreed" to something yet we get this?

"it is mental and I am not ready for that" - Khan quoting Pac

http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=34174

Who lied?

So yeah, what does Sr have to do with anything? Actually why is anyone even talking about Sr as he has nothing to do with anything other than the media loving to hear what he has to say.

I thought he was a coke head or insane or some other derogatory comment?
Yet you quote him? Quoting a crack head? Who playing the "****** game"?

Don't be mad you silly goose you! Bob already said he couldn't care any less if Pac never fights Mayweather... You cant force a promoter to deal with a guy that fired him. Notice how Mosley's not so golden but got a shot?

Pointing and calling names at Floyd STILL doesn't justify Pac's/Arums contradicting actions. We all know this, so stop excluding yourself. lol

Don't forget,
"it is mental and I am not ready for that"

[Squizz]

At this point, I don't really believe anything Bob Arum/Top Rank says. Fighting Mosley is a joke. Pure and simple. If they wanted the Floyd fight, they could have easily made it by now. Agree to random OST and the fight gets made. If Floyd backs out after that, then he is a coward.