Comments Thread For: Khan Defends Himself and Pacquiao Over Drug Allegations

[StrangerInTown]

When their Boxer can't beat the Opponent inside the Ring,

Losers & Critics, usually do the bashing/beating outside the Ring,

using every dirty trick available, accusing the opponent of using illegal drugs, without even presenting solid evidences that can withstand Court scrutiny!

Very well stated. Thank you for being a civil voice of reason.

[ADP02]

Rubbish.

People are su****ious because Manny gained 15lbs of muscle in less than 18 months whilst ripping through three divisions all the while publicly refusing random blood tests

Also, during JMM II the commentators were saying Manny looked faded, worn, and like he'd been through too many wars. During Diaz they said the very opposite.... "revitalised", "re-energised", etc.

The bottom line is.....
if Khan refuses random blood testing, then we all know whats up, dont we.

Manny did the same before and in a shorter time. He went from 113 to fighting 120's the next fight and KOing the guy in 2 rounds and then went on almost 13 KOs in a row in a couple of divisions. Very su****ious, right?

As for the higher weights, Manny improved. Most of us would agree but I doubt that you would agree. Still at the higher weights he never KOed anyone at 147 nor 150. Manny uses speed and movement to generate power. He does NOT come in at 147 nor 150 because he worries that he will lose his speed by doing so.

When you have the speed and movement that Manny has, it generates power but not enough to KO the big guys. These guys have trouble stopping his punches because they can't even see some of them and therefore dazing them and effectively destroying them.

David Diaz was honest and said it best post fight AFTER BEING KOed:
"He is just too fast it wasn't the power ..... I thought Freddie was in there too!" .........."I thought he had a knife with him and cutting me up with a blade .... I could handle his power but his speed was uncontrollable."


Manny's speed, movement and improvements that he gained along the way made him do what he did to those bigger guys.

BUT IT'S FUNNY .... in this thread Manny is amazing and it must be the PEDS and in another thread you guys say his opponents were drained, shot ..... Please make up your minds!

[WESS]

Very well stated. Thank you for being a civil voice of reason.

Someone told on Mosley, so is Floyd just being a tattletale?

[ADP02]

Who knows when he started if at all. It's all the same to me. I do have to say that I'd have never thought watching the flyweight Manny(a few months shy of 21) losing to a Thai(who began 2 divisions smaller than Manny did and walked through his punches) would get so much bigger, faster and become in my eyes the GOAT. Imagine Fernando Montiel, who's already moved up 2 divisions, moving up another 7 and actually getting faster, much more muscular and destroying Margarito. It really, really don't smell right but anything is indeed possible.

You have to realize Manny's background. He wasn't fortunate to have the type of amateur background as let's say Floyd had. Therefore, you will not see the same type of maturing as others that you are used to seeing.

Manny learned everything along the way as he fought as a Pro .....

[GRUSTLER]

If there is something going on over at Top Rank. I'm sure Amir Kahn
will be the one to spill the beans because as it looks. The pressure
of the accusations are too much for him. I would just take the tests
because then no one can say anything once you pass them. They can
continue but if Manny took them tests and came out clean, then it
would mean alot to everyone who TRULY loves and watches the sport.
Now all of a sudden, Kahn says that Manny cannot deal with the
mental pressure of the tests. That statement only means that Pac
was shamming us all along with the help of Arum, Roach and Koncz
and Ariza.

[WESS]

If there is something going on over at Top Rank. I'm sure Amir Kahn
will be the one to spill the beans because as it looks. The pressure
of the accusations are too much for him. I would just take the tests
because then no one can say anything once you pass them. They can
continue but if Manny took them tests and came out clean, then it
would mean alot to everyone who TRULY loves and watches the sport.
Now all of a sudden, Kahn says that Manny cannot deal with the
mental pressure of the tests. That statement only means that Pac
was shamming us all along with the help of Arum, Roach and Koncz
and Ariza.

I wish Khan would just shut up about it, he's not helping the matter one bit. Its almost like he's doing it on purpose. He seems really paranoid about it.


(The f**king white vans, there everywhere. They're watching and they know... the government knows... damn the white vans full of DEA agents following me around....shyt)

then again, thats just back in the day when smoking too much weed!

[PRBOXINGCOTTO]

who knows vanes said ariza makes pills for them n khan said its a shake n pac said he doesnt know

[Sugar Q]

What I am saying is..... I added up 1 + 1..... and I come up with 2.

1 = Gaining 15lbs of muscle in less than 18 months, whilst ripping through three divisions, gaining speed and power.....

1 = publicly refusing random blood tests, and citing 6 absolutely ridiculous reasons why not

2 = Manny is probably taking epo/hgh

The point is this......

I have the right to assume whatever the *** I want, because Manny will not take the tests.

My dude I agree 1000%. There's no need for BS, it is what it looks like it is!!!
Even Diana Taurasi got caught on some shyt. Prove it or your guilty!!! Right now even if Pac agreed to testing I would believe he was taking something at some point.

[LeadUppercut]

No doubt. Problem is everyone thinks that Floyd is the only one who sees this or has accused Pac...

He just asked Pac to take the tests which would have been no big deal at all. Pac made it a HUGE deal, followed up by excuses and lawsuits etc.

It's reasonable with the facts presented to easily say something is not right and its also reasonable to say he's clean because he never failed a test. Mosley will tell you the same thing.

Anyway I wouldn't be surprised either way with Pac...

Good point.

[PrinceNaz88]

No-one has any proof that the wildcard gym are a bunch of druggies.

Until they do, allegations like this have no "substance" whatsoever..