Comments Thread For: Arum: Berto Needs More Exposure To Get a Pacquiao Shot

[Khalid X]

No the f-ck he wouldn't. If he fought Shane PAC still wodnt fight him. And how you going to tell a man pull his pants when he signed to fight him in Jan. Who the f-ck is Shane to all of sudden to ask for 50/50 after getting his azz whooped by Floyd.

Stop playing ****** duke.

And why wouldn't he face Berto? You act like Berto is a beast or something. Dude has no defense, a weak @ss chin and stamina issues.

Berto is tailor made for Manny and I can't wait till they fight.

I definitely wanna see what u gotta say when Manny stops this hype job within 7 rounds.

So please explain to me what in Berto's game would have Manny shook o
as far as taking him on as an opponent?

While your talking all this garbage remember this fight is gonna happen.

[GRUSTLER]

I think that it's not about Manny, Roach or Arum being scared
to put their talent against the best but more of Arum not wanting
to break bread with Golden Boy. I guess that is why Floyd is hush
about the fight because he tried to make it happen, Pac didn't want
to take the tests in Floyd's favor and there you go, no fight. I think
even if Floyd would have said fine lets fight without the tests, Bob
would of made up some excuse on why the fight will not happen.
10MIL penalty per LB over the weight limit?

That right there was designed to kill the fight but it back fired.
Arum knew that he had to look like he wanted to make the fight
happen with Floyd and Golden Boy because if he didn't then he
looks like the bad guy. Same thing with the so called 2nd negotiations
and the Top Rank clock. I'm not trying to go back down that
road because I am convinced that Pac/Floyd will not happen
and am prepared to move on.

My point is that, Bob Arum hates Oscar, floyd and doesn't want
to break bread with guys like Diabella and Haymon. Arum made
the sport of boxing his own personal grudge. Dude is mad salty
and greedy as hell. He doesn't care about preserving the sport
at all but rather only lining his pockets. People that still believe
Arum have got to be out of their mind. Manny ain't scared to
fight, he just let Arum do to him what he tried to do to Oscar
and Floyd. I think the word I am looking for is "PIMP'N". Call
me a *****, hater or whatever you like but it won't change the
fact that Arum is playing all of us.

[DET. IRONSIDE]

Manny should clean up 147.

He has the skills. Its his job. Unify the titles.

[GRUSTLER]

And why wouldn't he face Berto? You act like Berto is a beast or something. Dude has no defense, a weak @ss chin and stamina issues.

Berto is tailor made for Manny and I can't wait till they fight.

I definitely wanna see what u gotta say when Manny stops this hype job within 7 rounds.

So please explain to me what in Berto's game would have Manny shook o
as far as taking him on as an opponent?

While your talking all this garbage remember this fight is gonna happen.

So why didn't Berto get the shot if he is so "Tailor Made" for Pac?
Sure Berto hasn't fought anyone and he doesn't sell out crowds
but that doesn't change the fact that Berto is a champion with
an undefeated record and would be a good win for Pac because
people are already questioning his opposition. Wouldn't you think
that it would be in Pac's best interest to atleast fight someone
that people will think may make it competitive? Sure Berto is
green but he is still a professional fighter. Give the kid a shot!
Arum makes stacks on top of stacks, so that not big enough
draw bull**** excuse is nonsense.

He did well with Clottey. But we know the real reason and
it is not because Pac is scared. I finally see the whole picture
and it is basically Arum having beef with everyone he is supposed
to be putting on the best fights for the fans, bringing more people
to the sport and then making even more money. I don't understand
people in the industry sometimes. Instead of building something
up that has potential, they rather hop on the wagon, be greedy
and close the doors on everybody else to satisfy their personal
agendas. Same thing happening to the music industry is happening
to the sport of boxing. No substance at all. Manny should know
better BUT I wouldn't expect anything less from a guy who signs
a contract with one promoter then accepts a brief case full of
money in the back seat of a limo to only complicate the
relationship between Arum and Oscar more. Floyd may be
an @sshole these days but he was dead on right about Arum
and his intentions.

[WESS]

I think that it's not about Manny, Roach or Arum being scared
to put their talent against the best but more of Arum not wanting
to break bread with Golden Boy. I guess that is why Floyd is hush
about the fight because he tried to make it happen, Pac didn't want
to take the tests in Floyd's favor and there you go, no fight. I think
even if Floyd would have said fine lets fight without the tests, Bob
would of made up some excuse on why the fight will not happen.
10MIL penalty per LB over the weight limit?

That right there was designed to kill the fight but it back fired.
Arum knew that he had to look like he wanted to make the fight
happen with Floyd and Golden Boy because if he didn't then he
looks like the bad guy. Same thing with the so called 2nd negotiations
and the Top Rank clock. I'm not trying to go back down that
road because I am convinced that Pac/Floyd will not happen
and am prepared to move on.

My point is that, Bob Arum hates Oscar, floyd and doesn't want
to break bread with guys like Diabella and Haymon. Arum made
the sport of boxing his own personal grudge. Dude is mad salty
and greedy as hell. He doesn't care about preserving the sport
at all but rather only lining his pockets. People that still believe
Arum have got to be out of their mind. Manny ain't scared to
fight, he just let Arum do to him what he tried to do to Oscar
and Floyd. I think the word I am looking for is "PIMP'N". Call
me a *****, hater or whatever you like but it won't change the
fact that Arum is playing all of us.

Not I........ but I feel ya. I'm on the same page.

[WESS]

So why didn't Berto get the shot if he is so "Tailor Made" for Pac?
Sure Berto hasn't fought anyone and he doesn't sell out crowds
but that doesn't change the fact that Berto is a champion with
an undefeated record and would be a good win for Pac because
people are already questioning his opposition. Wouldn't you think
that it would be in Pac's best interest to atleast fight someone
that people will think may make it competitive? Sure Berto is
green but he is still a professional fighter. Give the kid a shot!
Arum makes stacks on top of stacks, so that not big enough
draw bull**** excuse is nonsense.

He did well with Clottey. But we know the real reason and
it is not because Pac is scared. I finally see the whole picture
and it is basically Arum having beef with everyone he is supposed
to be putting on the best fights for the fans, bringing more people
to the sport and then making even more money. I don't understand
people in the industry sometimes. Instead of building something
up that has potential, they rather hop on the wagon, be greedy
and close the doors on everybody else to satisfy their personal
agendas. Same thing happening to the music industry is happening
to the sport of boxing. No substance at all. Manny should know
better BUT I wouldn't expect anything less from a guy who signs
a contract with one promoter then accepts a brief case full of
money in the back seat of a limo to only complicate the
relationship between Arum and Oscar more. Floyd may be
an @sshole these days but he was dead on right about Arum
and his intentions.

What's funny is all the excuses he gave about Berto is about the same excuses one could give for Mosley at 39, besides Shane's chin. Always had a good chin. Berto's stamina will out last a 40 year old Mosley who everyone's looking to be tired by round 3. If he tired out after 3 with Floyd, he'll be asleep by round one with Pac.

But I've said it for sometime now. I wish Pac would do what Oscar and Floyd did. Fire Arum. Pac can promote himself and make a lot more money. With only a few fights left he doesn't need anyone telling him what to do. Do what slapper Joe Calzaghe did, drop the promoter for the last few fights and pocket it all....

Arum has a heartattack, Pac saves boxing.

[jasbar]

last time pac fought a non-famous boxer in Clottey they only got 700k ppv, they have learned their lesson that Pac should only fight famous boxers to get 1mil+ ppv buys.

[Khalid X]

What's funny is all the excuses he gave about Berto is about the same excuses one could give for Mosley at 39, besides Shane's chin. Always had a good chin. Berto's stamina will out last a 40 year old Mosley who everyone's looking to be tired by round 3. If he tired out after 3 with Floyd, he'll be asleep by round one with Pac.

But I've said it for sometime now. I wish Pac would do what Oscar and Floyd did. Fire Arum. Pac can promote himself and make a lot more money. With only a few fights left he doesn't need anyone telling him what to do. Do what slapper Joe Calzaghe did, drop the promoter for the last few fights and pocket it all....

Arum does of a heartattack, Pac saves boxing.

Well I have stated several times that all 3 options for Manny ****** and none of them would be good fights.

Manny stops Marquez and Berto within 7 rounds and do to Shane's chin he atleast makes it the 12th round, although he will be battered.

I'd rather see Berto pick up a solid win so people won't have the excuses once Manny wins. Beating Berto now does nothing for Manny, but atleast he has youth on his side to where you can put it off, allow berto to get a few notches under his belt, and the fight could mean something.

[Khalid X]

@ Grustler

I have my reason but I doubt you wanna read a long reply from me on the manner. If so give me a minute and I'll hit you with it.

[GRUSTLER]

Not I........ but I feel ya. I'm on the same page.

I said "playing" not fooling. He's messing up the fights and that
is playing us in my opinion because we're still hopeful that the
fights are going to happen but Arum has no intention whatsoever
on making the fights happen.