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  • I will say this though.

    Even though Berto is the one who should be fighting Pac. Not Mosley, at a garbage fight that is.

    Why is that TR are the only ones that can develop stars?

    Shaw, Goosen, Dibella have been promoters for a long time and they can't develop a star? WTF is up with that? However, Goosen is doing a good job with Ward lets see what happens there. But, all these promoters have to start stepping up and do their damn job.

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    • Berto is a bum when is this kid going to fight a top fighter this kid runs his mouth that he wants the best but then signs fights with 140pounders or bums

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      • Originally posted by Ko King 212 View Post
        F-ck tou talkin about. I would favor manny on the fight. Point is its a better fight.

        And how you know PAC stops berto in 7? PAC dont have 1 punch ko power. **** all his last opponents went 12(the Cotto stoppage was a little muh. They could have let him finish the fight) when the last time PAC faced someone closer to his speed. **** even Marg was tagging him.

        I'm just going to stop because looking at your user name and Avy let's me know who d1ck you on.
        I've clearly stated from day 1 that all 3 are terrible matchups, so I dont get what my avi has to do with anything. Now if I was hyping this fight up (Mosley vs Pacquiao) you might have a point but again I have felt this is a terrible matchup as well.
        Last edited by Khalid X; 12-26-2010, 04:22 PM.

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        • Originally posted by tanginamo View Post
          Pacquiao vs Berto.?? if Pacquiao wins he will not GAIN anything...
          guys! CLOTTEY is a Class A Fighter,, he is a Great Defensive fighter.. he Fought Class A fighters including -> Carlos Baldomir,, Diego Corrales,, ZAB JUDAH,, Miguel Cotto,, Antonio Margarito
          Pacquiao is not gaining nothing now by fighting Mosley. Berto
          is a better fight because it would be a unification bout and
          Berto's undefeated record would be on the line. Mosley is
          being thrown under the bus at this point in the media.

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          • Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
            I will say this though.

            Even though Berto is the one who should be fighting Pac. Not Mosley, at a garbage fight that is.

            Why is that TR are the only ones that can develop stars?

            Shaw, Goosen, Dibella have been promoters for a long time and they can't develop a star? WTF is up with that? However, Goosen is doing a good job with Ward lets see what happens there. But, all these promoters have to start stepping up and do their damn job.
            You know what. If they don't do nothing right they know how to bring up their future stars. They have that **** down to a science(except black fighters).

            But they do go a little over board with protecting some of them. Mainly juama, and gamboa. Donaire(I think he beats everybody near his weight class. **** I'd pick him over juama if they ever fought. That dude is talented like a mothaf-cka) resume should be way better then vics after that win.

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            • Originally posted by WESS View Post
              aaahhhh I see the light! Pointed out nicely. Although I still think Berto would have been better BUT you make a very valid business sense point that has Arum written all over it. I didn't even think about Mosley's next fight. I'm stuck on him being done but he's already expressed that he's fighting on. So that makes a lot of sense but its still disappointing.

              So what happens to that plane if Mayweather "decides" to come back and picks to fight Berto and we all know he schools him. Does Pac fight another Mayweather "left over" fighter? Or does Pac move on to Cotto II at 154 which Arum has hinted?
              I said fight but I meants fights as in his next 2-3.

              It's pretty fvkk up from a fans perspective but Arum is using Manny to strong arm other promoters and fighters....Don King style.

              Next up.....Sergio Martinez as his only big fights will be Cotto vs Margarito winner, Chavez Jr. and possible Pacquiao. Those are the only fights that will earn Martinez a big payday and it will be interesting to see Arum tatics when dealing with Martinez.

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              • Originally posted by -Top Rank- View Post
                I said fight but I meants fights as in his next 2-3.

                It's pretty fvkk up from a fans perspective but Arum is using Manny to strong arm other promoters and fighters....Don King style.

                Next up.....Sergio Martinez as his only big fights will be Cotto vs Margarito winner, Chavez Jr. and possible Pacquiao. Those are the only fights that will earn Martinez a big payday and it will be interesting to see Arum tatics when dealing with Martinez.
                You really think Arum would put Pac in the ring with Martinez at JMW (no catch)?

                I really want to see Floyd fight Martinez before anyone. That's just me and I know everyone wants Mayweather vs Pac but I want to see Floyd in the ring with a BIG dude that's quick and has power plus brings a good technical side to it. Like I said before I have Floyd beating Pac which leads to why I want Floyd Martinez. I really dont think Arum will allow Pac to fight either Mayweather or Martinez until its like the last straw. The last resort. Make as much now and save that fight for later as it will always sell. Maybe not AS much but Mayweather Pac will always sell. Arum might keep it as a last resort hell marry fight before either retires... idk.

                The way I was predicting it is, Pac vs Mosley, and then Pac vs Cotto II at JMW. I can also see Margarito Cotto II at JMW and winner faces Martinez. With Pac fighting Berto. Assuming Floyd doesn't come back to fight (beat) Berto.

                I cant see Arum putting Pac in the ring with Martinez though. I see him putting Mayweather in before Martinez. IDK....

                I sure as hell didn't even think Mosley would totally sign over to the "dark side". It makes business sense and was like you said probably in the contract which was most likely a make or break for the deal. You know damn well Mosley wasn't turning it down. Arum had him at hello (tears and all).
                Last edited by WESS; 12-26-2010, 04:45 PM.

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                • Good post.......

                  I say the same thing. MANNY is my favorite fighter to watch now but BERTO is ready because of his WILL to be the best. I would favor MANNY but BERTO has the speed, power, footwork, and conditioning to possibly win the fight. ARUM knows this and that's why they chose MOSLEY. MANNY doesn't care who he fights though. He is a true warrior and will fight anybody. He leaves all the promotional stuff to the promoter as he should. If I was BERTO, I would go and find the toughest guy at the first part of the year, and fight them! COTTO should be fighting BERTO. He is a welterweight, not a junior middleweight. He'll find that out when he fights next. BERTO is one BIG win away from MANNY. MANNY actually likes BERTO and the possibility of fighting him. It is UNCLE TOM ARUM who prevented it this time like always.

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                  • i gotta agree with arum.

                    jmm priced himself out of a fight.

                    berto needs more exposure and to fight A-level opposition. clottey got exposure fighting judah and corrales and he fought margarito and cotto.

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                    • Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
                      i gotta agree with arum.

                      jmm priced himself out of a fight.

                      berto needs more exposure and to fight A-level opposition. clottey got exposure fighting judah and corrales and he fought margarito and cotto.
                      Just curious who has been on HBO more Berto or Clottey?

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