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  • #51
    Bob Arum: Berto needs to get, atleast, TKOed to pass Pac's audition

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    • #52
      Originally posted by gonhlywd View Post
      Just wondering if you've ever step foot into the ring. I have seen friends fight who's mind was not into it and they subsequently ended up getting their asses beat, by men they should have handled in there.
      Haiti is a small country and you sh_t on Berto for canceling the Mosley fight because he did not know whether or not he had family effected by the earthquake, and God-for-bid the man decides to help his fellow countrymen clean up the devastation.
      As well, you are not a psychic. You cannot say that Berto would be fighting Pac if he had fought and beat Mosley. Arum would more than likely have some other excuse for fighting another Top Rank fighter.
      What an as_ hole thing to say.
      Yes I have but what does that have to do with anything?

      BTW your reading comprehension isn't too good because my reference was towards Berto and Shane fighting in the fall and not in January after the Haiti incident. After the Floyd fight, GBP tried to make Berto vs Mosley again.
      Last edited by Khalid X; 12-26-2010, 11:40 AM.

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      • #53
        Berto won't get a shot at Manny while he's on a winning streak, he's neither old or shot right now to justify Arum giving him the time of day.

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        • #54
          Berto's opposition has been absolutely woeful. That is the bad thing about him getting a shot at Pacquiao. Because if Pacquiao beat him he wouldn't get the credit that he might get if Berto did win a meaningful fight like Arum is saying he should supposedly do. This is why I'm hoping Timothy Bradley will whip Devon Alexander's ass. Because if Alexander wins that fight, people will point to the fact that he needs to rematch Kotelnik. Those guys don't have the punching power that Berto has maybe, but I think Bradley's underrated ability to slip punches could cause a really hard night for Pacquaio.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by -Top Rank- View Post
            Yes I have but what does that have to do with anything?

            BTW your reading comprehension isn't too good because my reference was towards Berto and Shane fighting in the fall and not in January after the Haiti incident. After the Floyd fight, GBP tried to make Berto vs Mosley again.
            I agree. If Berto didn't act like such a big shot and just shut his mouth and fight Shane Mosley instead of acting like a Twitter tough guy, we would have a fight to be interested in regarding Pacquiao's next fight.

            But now that Berto's team got greedy and asked for 50-50, there is no way an elite fighter like Pacquiao is gonna look in his direction. If Berto would've beaten Mosley or even lost to him, then we would have a fight to look forward to. Because if Mosley would've beaten Berto, people wouldn't think he's shot like they do now. And if Berto had beaten Mosley, he would've done at least something to make people think he may be competitive with Pacquiao. Guys like Freddy Hernandez are no measuring stick.

            And I'm referring to when GBP tried to put the fight back together after Mosley's fight with Floyd like you said earlier.
            Last edited by Iceta Lives; 12-26-2010, 11:51 AM.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP View Post
              Top Rank's CEO Bob Arum has already explained the reasons on why Juan Manuel Marquez was overlooked for an opportunity to fight Manny Pacquiao on May 7 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas. Arum says Golden Boy Promotions, on behalf of Marquez - "overpriced" the Mexican boxer. According to a source with knowledge of Marquez's demands, the three-division champion had asked for a $5 million guarantee, while making $5 per pay-per-view buy above 500,000, for $8.5 million total if the fight generated 1.2 million buys.


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              this is the most obnoxious excause and man in boxing.berto is ar more known than clottey is and they made a giant event over that. berto is simly to good to face pacyow he represnts too much risk. berto was never in the running because he can obviousley fight and pac doesnt face guys like that he specializes in fighting guys like mosley and margarito dudes on their way out. pacs team and defenders are a bunch of clowns, they should pay us $60 for pac vs mosley pure garbage in a long line of garbage matchups.

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              • #57
                Arum says JMM "priced himself out of the fight", well did Bob counter the offer or did he follow through with his agenda which was "selecting" Mosley?

                I don't know weather Bob is talking about Berto or Clottey? Which is it?

                Does Top Rank/Bob Arum not negotiate anymore? Seems like once he has a plan, nothing else matters... no matter "who's" around or whats going on.

                Bob has an agenda.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by -Top Rank- View Post
                  It's already been explained in detail on numerous occasions.

                  Your only seeing what you wanna see.

                  BTW quit acting like Berto is a victim. If he would have put on his pants and took the Mosley fight in the fall, he would be facing Manny right now. He chose an easy payday and a lessor opponent so he has no one to blame but himself.

                  Doesn't matter though because seeing he is the only other legit WW he is gonna get his shot soon enough.
                  No the f-ck he wouldn't. If he fought Shane PAC still wodnt fight him. And how you going to tell a man pull his pants when he signed to fight him in Jan. Who the f-ck is Shane to all of sudden to ask for 50/50 after getting his azz whooped by Floyd.

                  Stop playing ****** duke.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by WESS View Post
                    Arum says JMM "priced himself out of the fight", well did Bob counter the offer or did he follow through with his agenda which was "selecting" Mosley?

                    I don't know weather Bob is talking about Berto or Clottey? Which is it?

                    Does Top Rank/Bob Arum not negotiate anymore? Seems like once he has a plan, nothing else matters... no matter "who's" around or whats going on.

                    Bob has an agenda.
                    Thats what I don't get. It's like these dudes play ****** because their love for their fab fighter. No doubt manny is a GREAT fighter but the length their going to defend his promotional team is f-ckin crazy.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by Ko King 212 View Post
                      No the f-ck he wouldn't. If he fought Shane PAC still wodnt fight him. And how you going to tell a man pull his pants when he signed to fight him in Jan. Who the f-ck is Shane to all of sudden to ask for 50/50 after getting his azz whooped by Floyd.

                      Stop playing ****** duke.
                      The point is, if Berto would've beaten Mosley that would've eliminated a cherry for Pacquiao to pick more than likely. Nobody would pay for a Mora-Pacquiao fight, because everybody knows he stinks the joint out. But if Berto would've beaten Mosley and if Pacquiao fought Mosley anyway you'd be hearing an outcry as big as a Phillipino typhoon. I think Top Rank are pretty bad. But I don't think they would've made a Pacquiao-Mosley fight if Berto would've beaten him. That's the dude's point. And he's right if you wanna be fair.

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