Comments Thread For: Roach: Mosley The Best Choice, Floyd Jr. Playing Games

[CharliesRecords]

We have a little saying down here where I'm from that sums up the Mayweather-Pacquaio soap opera quite nicely. And that is, one's scared and the other one's glad. Take it however you want.

We have a little saying down here where I'm from that says: "**** Mayweather and **** Pacquiao!!!!!"

[hitking]

We have a little saying down here where I'm from that says: "**** Mayweather and **** Pacquiao!!!!!"

I like that one too.

[LeadUppercut]

Mayweather is not afraid..... I have followed this game for a very long time and find him a B talent at best.....

You are full-of-**** kid.

You have not been following boxing for a very long time, in fact I don't think that you know very much about boxing at all. I'm guessing that you have been following boxing since the Hoya\Pacquiao fight, like most other Manny fan's.

Your quote above, proves that. Even blatant Mayweather hater's aren't silly enough to make a post like that if they want to retain any credibility.

What does the vacationer have to do with the following things ?

* Manny will not fight a skilled boxer.....

* Manny will not fight a skilled counter-puncher.....

* Manny will not fight anybody who is in their prime.....

* Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game.....

* Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage.....

* And at JMW, Manny will not fight anybody at all.....

EVERY SINGLE FIGHT dating back to before Morales involves controversy, and yet you, Mr boxng expert, you think that Pacquiao is even on vacationer's level?

Gimme a break kid.

What was your Plan B ?

I don't want to confuse the subject, because I don't really care about the vacationer, and I think that your Manny/Floyd war is pathetic..... but most importantly I think that Manny should stand on his own two feet, most of his issues have nothing to do with the vacationer.....

Aside from the second point below, how do the following 6 issues, as well as the 6 issues that I outlined above, have anything to do with the vacationer?

1.) Manny Pacquiao is a coward for claiming to be an 8-division champion, and yet being too scared to EVER fight an actual JMW oppenent.

2.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for ducking Mayweather back in December, either that or he is a steroid cheat. He didn't want none of Mayweather or the tests, thats for sure.

3.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for ducking Sergio Martinez. If JMM can go up two divisions to WW, then surely Manny can defend his JMW title at 154. What a b1tch Manny.

4.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for demanding a catch-weight for Cotto. There are two reasons to demand a catch-weight, either you are not good enough to compete with that fighter at his natural weight, which is fine..... or you are attempting to drain him to gain an unfair advantage, which is cowardly. Team Pacquiao tried to drain Cotto, because Manny had already fought at 147.

5.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for ducking Shane Mosley - TWICE !!

6.) And Manny "padded" Pacquiao is also a dirty coward for refusing to fight Marquez unless the fight is held at 147.

Manny "padded" Pacquiao is a joke. Top Rank smoke and mirrors.

Team Pacquiao.....
Still piss-scared of Marquez, since 2004

[adp023]

You come to the negotiations open. Team Pacqauio always announces when they are gonna fight. Then, they announce that Mayweather is their "priority", but Fighter X is there backup/legitimate plan. Personally, I don't think either side is overly eager to fight the other.

Simply announcing your availability doesn't close negotiations. It OPENS the negotiating process. Every negotiation needs a starting point!!! Correct??

Some people want blame Pac for the first negotiation, but he had every right to negotiate demands that no boxing commission or any other boxer supports. First round of negotiations for a fight of this magnitude was bound to break down!! That is actually expected. But the second negotiation was unforgivable!! Floyd lied and PUNKED OUT to the point where even his fans said WTF??? Pac's team announcing a date of availability did NOT breakdown that negotiation!! And neither did random testing. If that was the case, Floyd's team wouldn't have to lie and claim "no negotiations" ever took place. It was simply a cluster**** by Mayweather, Golden Boy and Al Haymon! They had NO valid excuses or reasons to not fight!! Now again, Pac is saying he's available.....and suddenly his self-inflicted "legal troubles" is "valid" excuse his fans are claiming. Yet, Floyd has had those same troubles back in 2004-2005 and still fought!

[twosweethooks]

IF Mayweather:

1. had gotten excited about fighting Pac:

a. he would have been too involved with camp rather than beating women up and threatening children or grown men who are not fighters and now going to court and a possible jail sentence, hence many have done this.

Sounds like a bully don't it. Bullys don't have a deep set of Balls.

2. was absolutely sure he could whip Pac :

a. He would have done all to have signed the contract.

b. But he has proven that he is chicken$#!*

Hence the proverbial "VACATION" !!!

Why can't we just forget Mayweather ?

Because WE LOVE GREAT FIGHTS and we want to see the best fight against the best.

I wish the 15 round fights would come back. Pac vs May in a 15 rounder,,,OH oh sorry, Pac will KO May before round 9 so it wouldn't matter.

Missing the good old days badly !!!!!!!!!!

[hitking]

Simply announcing your availability doesn't close negotiations. It OPENS the negotiating process. Every negotiation needs a starting point!!! Correct??

Some people want blame Pac for the first negotiation, but he had every right to negotiate demands that no boxing commission or any other boxer supports. First round of negotiations for a fight of this magnitude was bound to break down!! That is actually expected. But the second negotiation was unforgivable!! Floyd lied and PUNKED OUT to the point where even his fans said WTF??? Pac's team announcing a date of availability did NOT breakdown that negotiation!! And neither did random testing. If that was the case, Floyd's team wouldn't have to lie and claim "no negotiations" ever took place. It was simply a cluster**** by Mayweather, Golden Boy and Al Haymon! They had NO valid excuses or reasons to not fight!! Now again, Pac is saying he's available.....and suddenly his self-inflicted "legal troubles" is "valid" excuse his fans are claiming. Yet, Floyd has had those same troubles back in 2004-2005 and still fought!

We also later found out that Team Pacquaio told a fat ass lie about agreeing to the USADA testing in full buddy. Whether the negotiations happen or not, they still came out and "agreed" to something that was off the table. That means nothing to me. The truth is, these guys don't want to fight each other. If they did, Pac would have agreed to the USADA testing (if he's clean of course) and Mayweather would made more of an effort to make hiself available. The more people keep choosing sides, the more this fight isn't gonna happen. The *****s excuse their boy. The Pacwh*res excuse their boy. I'm done with both of them. You can place blame whereever you want. But here on planet Earth, both sides are equally to blame for this nonsense.

[hitking]

Ultimately, Mayweatehr is gonna do what he's doen since the Hatton fight. And that is sit on the sidelines, let everyone kick the **** outta each other. Then, he'll swoop in and fight whomever is on top at the moment and proclaim his greatness. If its Pacquaio, its Pacquaio. If its Martinez, its Martinez. If its someone else, its someone else. And likewise, Pacquaio is ultimately gonna do what he always does. And that if fight guys coming off loses or lackluster performances against lesser fighters. So in the end, it is very unlikely Mayweather is gonna fight mroe than one a year or once every other year at this point. And it is likewise unlikely that Pac is gonna lose fighting the type of opponents he fights. So for this fight to happen soon, someoen is gonna have to blink first. If not, we're probably never gonna see it. Or, we're gonna see it when both are well past their primes.

[adp023]

We also later found out that Team Pacquaio told a fat ass lie about agreeing to the USADA testing in full buddy. Whether the negotiations happen or not, they still came out and "agreed" to something that was off the table. That means nothing to me. The truth is, these guys don't want to fight each other. If they did, Pac would have agreed to the USADA testing (if he's clean of course) and Mayweather would made more of an effort to make hiself available. The more people keep choosing sides, the more this fight isn't gonna happen. The *****s excuse their boy. The Pacwh*res excuse their boy. I'm done with both of them. You can place blame whereever you want. But here on planet Earth, both sides are equally to blame for this nonsense.

How exactly did they lie?? Koncz was the one that disclosed that they agreed to everything up to 7 days to the fight!! You can whine all you about it not being up to the date of the fight, BUT NO ONE from Team Floyd complained!! They said "on vacation", "no negotiations", etc. Only the haters are complaining. We don't hear any officials or credible people in sports medicine complaining about 7 days!!! Yet, you want to give Pac EQUAL blame!!! Show me some valid research that Pac will get away with PEDs within that time frame of 7 days?? Remember, he'll be urine tested randomly all the way up to the day of the fight and then blood and urine tested immediately after the fight!! SHOW planet Earth how anyone can still get away with it and you will be granted "equal" blame!!!

[Alibata]

man, **** this ****.

Manny is in his prime years right now. He got 2 or 3 more fights left at this level so why waste time by fighting a washed up non-slick fighter?

Manny should fight Berto or Bradley at 147 or JMM at 140.

Yeah then people will say he is ducking Shane, Sergio, and yeah some even mention Soto..... Quit trippin, Shane still beats any of those dudes.

[johnm is...]

Yeah then people will say he is ducking Shane, Sergio, and yeah some even mention Soto..... Quit trippin, Shane still beats any of those dudes.

I'm not so sure Shane beats Berto, or Bradley, to be honest.

I know he has an opportunity to shut a lot of people up if he fights Marquez (those saying he was beaten by Marquez twice, and that JMM has earned the rematch).

And he has an opportunity to shut a lot of people up if he fights Berto (young, strong, fast, undefeated).

And yet, he's still going to fight Mosley. Which pretty much does nothing, except earn him more money. Which is all fine and good, but don't scream about "giving the fans what they want" all the time, that's all.