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  • Hmm, I seem to remember fredie saying something along the lines of "Mosley would be a walk over, Marquez is the fight I want". I wonder what ever happened to that?
    Last edited by Visceral; 12-15-2010, 08:50 PM.

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    • Originally posted by LeadUppercut View Post
      What ?

      Every single time, possibly without exception, that you are asked, or choose to answer a question about Manny..... you bring up Mayweather ?
      Dude can't u read? This thread has to do with mosley vs pac, and floyd "playing games". I gave my 2 cents on the situation, what's ur problem?

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      • in my opinion there just hypin up the fight too see what manny can do to shane an if he can do it better then floyd, i think the fight is next...
        we all look dumb sayin one fighter is duckin the other

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        • Berto should be a better fight. too bad boxing is more than a business rather than entertainment...

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          • Originally posted by LeadUppercut View Post
            You dumb whiney kid.....

            * Manny will not fight a skilled boxer.....

            * Manny will not fight a skilled counter-puncher.....

            * Manny will not fight anybody who is in their prime.....

            * Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game.....

            * Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage.....

            * And at JMW, Manny will not fight anybody at all.....

            You must be so proud
            We are changing yer name to LEAD DUMBASS

            * Is Cotto not a skilled fighter , counterpuncher ?

            * Hatton, Cotto Clottey Margo are all in their prime ! Name one elite prime Welter weight that Mayweather has fought in the past 5 years ????????!!

            * YOU can't dumbass.

            and the beat goes on,,,,,,,,,,here , go to your room little boy,,,,,,,

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            • Floyd loves to fight an old and natural superfeatherweight at WW bout and weight a whopping 168 pound at fightnight....Floyd fought Baldomir instead of primed Mosley, Cotto, Clottey and Margarito..Floyd said that he chose Baldomir coz he's a pound for pound fighter and better than Cotto(damn!!)....Now, Floyd is in scared vacation fighting a women as a tune up fight against Ana Julaton in 2011......
              Last edited by mr_kamado10; 12-16-2010, 04:15 AM.

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              • Originally posted by twosweethooks View Post
                * Is Cotto not a skilled fighter , counterpuncher?
                The other three points apply to that fight, funny you didn't mention those.....

                * Manny will not fight anybody who is in their prime.....

                * Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game.....

                * Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage.....


                That was not a prime Cotto, and he was not on top of his game. Everyone could see that he was looking faded and shop-worn after being plastered by Margarito and then battered by Clottey.

                And.....
                There are two reasons to demand a catch-weight, either you are not good enough to compete with that fighter at his natural weight, which is fine..... or you are attempting to drain him to gain an unfair advantage, which is a b1tch-move. Team Pacquiao tried to drain Cotto, because Manny had already fought at 147.

                I'm not saying that Cotto was drained, just that they TRIED to drain him, because Manny had already fought at 147. Manny probably could have beaten Cotto at 147 anyways, which makes it a real b1tch-move.

                Just because the bullet missed, does not lessen the intent.

                Originally posted by twosweethooks View Post
                * Hatton, Cotto Clottey Margo are all in their prime !
                Hatton was the same as Cotto, possibly even worse, and neither had a good camp. Miguel trained himself, and Ricky had ol' man Mayweather - we all know what happened there. Hatton was starting to look faded and shop-worn, he had struggled in recent fights, as well as having his clock cleaned by Mayweather.

                Clottey had a prime? I dunno what happened in that fight, it was bizarre. Clottey certainly didn't seem to want to hurt Manny. The way he let him off the ropes in round 6 and centered the ring so that Manny could open up again, was fkn bizarre. It was just like watching two guys sparring in the gym. And Clottey's excuses were unbelievable.

                Margo is a joke. He is a slow, plodding, mediocre, shop-worn, welterweight BUM, with no KO power, who had just been b1tchslapped by Mosley.

                Hatton/Clottey/Margo/= slow, plodding, come-forward, fighters, who were all coming off a loss, and all except that ***wit punching bag Clottey had suffered bad KO losses. Cotto too.

                Originally posted by twosweethooks View Post
                Name one elite prime Welter weight that Mayweather has fought in the past 5 years ????????!!
                Who cares about Mayweather? I never mentioned him. Don't compare Manny with vacationer, compare him to ATG's who fought the best, at their best weight, while they were in their prime. Something that Manny won't do.....
                " What Berto does represent is a new look for Pacquiao - an undefeated fighter in his natural weight class and in the prime of his career "
                http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=33834

                It's not hate man. There are controversies and very careful match-making decisions, hanging over every single Pacquiao fight going back to Morales..... and that's not even considering the extremely unusual gain of 15lb's of muscle in under 18 months while ripping through 3 divisions, and then refusing random blood tests.

                It's not hate. Manny is a terrific fighter, there are just question marks, that's all. A lot of them, far too many to be a coincidence.

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                • Originally posted by LeadUppercut View Post
                  The other three points apply to that fight, funny you didn't mention those.....

                  * Manny will not fight anybody who is in their prime.....

                  * Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game.....

                  * Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage.....


                  That was not a prime Cotto, and he was not on top of his game. Everyone could see that he was looking faded and shop-worn after being plastered by Margarito and then battered by Clottey.

                  It's not hate. Manny is a terrific fighter, there are just question marks, that's all. A lot of them, far too many to be a coincidence.

                  Thankyou for not pottymouth blaspheming !!

                  What I saw in the Cotto Margo fight was a PRIME COTTO countering everything that Margo could throw. That was at Welter Weight. Margo didn't have loaded gloves in that fight, no proof and the Margo Manny fight proved it for me and thousands more. YOU may never be convinced and thats fine. More damage was done on the face of Cotto by Pac than what Margo did. Margo walked Cotto down with his face. Cotto threw his best and with NO EFFECT !!!!! BIG POINT because it got into his Psyche and while in the trenches it threw his heart out the window and he QUIT. The replay of Margo vs Cotto and Pac vs Cotto are vivid, there is not comparison. The Pac fight was on the line for a couple of rounds but after that first knock down it all changed and definitely after the 2nd Knockdown in the 4th round, it was all but over but not in the Margo Cotto scrap. In the 10th Cotto was still in the fight throwing bombs. He was still looking ok. Then that last flurry by Margo ****** it out of Cotto at the end of the tenth and the 11th tells the rest of the story, Cotto took that big LEADUPPERCUT in about 1:32 and Cotto stumbles back with QUIT all over him and he does.

                  With Pac, Cotto is SUPER SHARP in his 28 year old prime body countering Pac with vicious head shots , to the ear, for the first three rounds until Pac gets to him QUICKLY with his shots and Cotto can't take it, its too much, his gloves were not loaded,,,,, he was not weight drained and with in the welter weight limits, and chose to come in at 145, saying plainly the weight is fine.

                  Pac compared to all other fighters on the earth has done things no other person in the history of boxing has done that "I KNOW OF".

                  He has gone up more weight classes than anyone.

                  His last fight was against an elite. Hate him or love him,,,Margo was a super threat due to the WEIGHT. The extra poundage gave him super strength more than he did at welterweight with COTTO. IF we are quick to point out what Mosley did to him, lets also point out what he did to himself. He let himself get way over weight and was 30-40 pounds over 6 weeks out according to the reports we have read on boxingscene or other places. He was weightdrained alright down to death weight , PLUS the debacle with the gloves but Margo is one of the GAMEST men on earth because he went back out that last round ready to face the beast and NEVER BACKED DOWN.

                  Then he gets into supreme condition by the SECOND BEST TRAINER we have today in boxing,,,Garcia.

                  Pac fights his greatest fight with Margo because:

                  No one in history has ever gone up this heavy and won. ( the middle weight that fought Jack Johnson got close putting him down but JJ cracked him good for doing it).

                  It was a competitive fight, Margo came in supreme condition as strong as he has ever been and pressed Pac worse than any fight I have seen him in and with the extra 17 pounds that was pure muscle blood and guts it WORE on Pac worse than anyfight he had ever been in but WON in great GLORY ! This fight was more about a little GREAT fighter fighting a big STRONG ELITE fighter, the biggest he has ever fought and one who fought to the finish.

                  Thats all,

                  Evidently Pac is a now a natural 144 pound fighter not a true welter weight and 140 is a bit small.

                  Pac is a PHENOMENON

                  Jealousy Reigns

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                  • Originally posted by twosweethooks View Post
                    Thankyou for not pottymouth blaspheming !!

                    Anyone who is proven to be a dishonest cvnt, will be called a dishonest cvnt. I am not racist in any way, that applies to everyone. Let's see, shall we?.....

                    What I saw in the Cotto Margo fight was a PRIME COTTO countering everything that Margo could throw. That was at Welter Weight. Margo didn't have loaded gloves in that fight, no proof and the Margo Manny fight proved it for me and thousands more. YOU may never be convinced and thats fine. More damage was done on the face of Cotto by Pac than what Margo did. Margo walked Cotto down with his face. Cotto threw his best and with NO EFFECT !!!!! BIG POINT because it got into his Psyche and while in the trenches it threw his heart out the window and he QUIT. The replay of Margo vs Cotto and Pac vs Cotto are vivid, there is not comparison. The Pac fight was on the line for a couple of rounds but after that first knock down it all changed and definitely after the 2nd Knockdown in the 4th round, it was all but over but not in the Margo Cotto scrap. In the 10th Cotto was still in the fight throwing bombs. He was still looking ok. Then that last flurry by Margo ****** it out of Cotto at the end of the tenth and the 11th tells the rest of the story, Cotto took that big LEADUPPERCUT in about 1:32 and Cotto stumbles back with QUIT all over him and he does.

                    With Pac, Cotto is SUPER SHARP in his 28 year old prime body countering Pac with vicious head shots , to the ear, for the first three rounds until Pac gets to him QUICKLY with his shots and Cotto can't take it, its too much, his gloves were not loaded,,,,, he was not weight drained and with in the welter weight limits, and chose to come in at 145, saying plainly the weight is fine.

                    You are full of it kid.

                    What is your point? Why the hell would you waste my time by attempting to give me your "impression" of a fight that I watched?

                    I am not concerned with Cotto's condition BEFORE that fight, I clearly stated that Cotto was faded and past-prime before Manny fought him, not before Margarito fought him. Are you being dishonest with me? After Jennings/Clottey EVERYONE was saying that Cotto was faded and had nothing left, that's when Team Pac jumped on him.

                    And only a Manny-fan with very low-standards would attempt to justify that 145 catch-weight. That was completely unnecessary, and an ATTEMPT to drain Cotto. You have very low standards, and so has Manny
                    .


                    Pac compared to all other fighters on the earth has done things no other person in the history of boxing has done that "I KNOW OF".

                    He has gone up more weight classes than anyone.

                    His last fight was against an elite. Hate him or love him,,,Margo was a super threat due to the WEIGHT. The extra poundage gave him super strength more than he did at welterweight with COTTO.

                    Don't be ridiculous, you know absolutely nothing about boxing. You became a joke with that comment. Margo weighed 150, END OF STORY. The difference between pre-fight weight was water rehydration, and nothing else. " The extra poundage gave him super strength" LMAO ya silly kid yeah that's right, Margarito could shoot laser-beams from his eyes.

                    Margarito is a slow, plodding, mediocre, shop-worn, welterweight, BUM, with no KO power, who could not have beaten any of the top welterweights, and who had just been b1tchslapped by Mosley. If you think that Margarito was EVER an elite fighter, then you know absolutely nothing about boxing, you are a Manny-fan, who will be gone soon.


                    IF we are quick to point out what Mosley did to him, lets also point out what he did to himself. He let himself get way over weight and was 30-40 pounds over 6 weeks out according to the reports we have read on boxingscene or other places. He was weightdrained alright down to death weight , PLUS the debacle with the gloves but Margo is one of the GAMEST men on earth because he went back out that last round ready to face the beast and NEVER BACKED DOWN.

                    Then he gets into supreme condition by the SECOND BEST TRAINER we have today in boxing,,,Garcia.

                    OH PLEASE !!

                    YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT BOXING


                    Pac fights his greatest fight with Margo because:

                    No one in history has ever gone up this heavy and won. ( the middle weight that fought Jack Johnson got close putting him down but JJ cracked him good for doing it).

                    It was a competitive fight, Margo came in supreme condition as strong as he has ever been and pressed Pac worse than any fight I have seen him in and with the extra 17 pounds that was pure muscle blood and guts it WORE on Pac worse than anyfight he had ever been in but WON in great GLORY ! This fight was more about a little GREAT fighter fighting a big STRONG ELITE fighter, the biggest he has ever fought and one who fought to the finish.

                    Your comments in that last paragraph, are why nobody likes you little idiots. You come on here and utter dribble like that, and still expect to be taken seriously? Mosley KTFO a better version of Margarito, and he did it much easier. It is a joke that you think cheato is some type of Superman, and that Manny is Luke Skywalker

                    Thats all,

                    Evidently Pac is a now a natural 144 pound fighter not a true welter weight and 140 is a bit small.

                    *** off with your floor-level standards you clown. Roach/Ariza both confirmed that Manny is a natural JWW, who can fight at welter.

                    Pac is a PHENOMENON

                    Jealousy Reigns
                    It is a joke that somebody who is tougher than Superman and who can sing better than Elvis could have so many question marks hanging over them.....

                    Pacquiao is a hype-job pu$$y, who will not fight.....
                    * Manny will not fight a skilled boxer.....
                    * Manny will not fight a skilled counter-puncher.....
                    * Manny will not fight anybody who is in their prime.....
                    * Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game.....
                    * Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage.....
                    * And at JMW, Manny will not fight anybody at all.

                    1.) Manny Pacquiao is a coward for claiming to be an 8-division champion, and yet being too scared to EVER fight an actual JMW oppenent.

                    2.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for ducking Mayweather back in December, either that or he is a steroid cheat. He didn't want none of Mayweather or the tests, thats for sure.

                    3.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for ducking Sergio Martinez. If JMM can go up two divisions to WW, then surely Manny can defend his JMW title at 154. What a b1tch Manny.

                    4.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for demanding a catch-weight for Cotto. There are two reasons to demand a catch-weight, either you are not good enough to compete with that fighter at his natural weight, which is fine..... or you are attempting to drain him to gain an unfair advantage, which is cowardly. Team Pacquiao tried to drain Cotto, because Manny had already fought at 147.

                    5.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for ducking Shane Mosley - TWICE !!

                    6.) And Manny "padded" Pacquiao is also a dirty coward for refusing to fight Marquez unless the fight is held at 147.

                    Manny "padded" Pacquiao is a joke. Top Rank smoke and mirrors.

                    Team Pacquiao.....
                    Still piss-scared of Marquez, since 2004

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                    • Originally posted by jltsmae View Post
                      Berto should be a better fight. too bad boxing is more than a business rather than entertainment...
                      pac v berto ends in 1st round ko

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