I'm Sorry. KOSTYA TSZYU is NOT a HoF'er. His Best Win is Zab Judah!!

[Gino Ros]

Tszyu dominated the division twice. He got stopped by Vernon Phillips that was undefeated at 140 lb (he had lost at 147). ODLH and Floyd wouldn't even mention him, Mosley leaped from 135 to 147 and Kostya wasn't going to 147. Don't think he has enough names to be a HOF but he was avoided by other top fighters.

But I guess if Gatti can so can Tszyu

gatti ain't in

[-Kev-]

gatti ain't in

[Walt Liquor]

You had guys who were smaller than Zoo go to 147 where there were tons of fights. But he was never enthused about that.

If he had fought even ONE of the top guys, i would prolly be viewing him differently.

Id Wiley Hyena were still on here, his head would explode.

what the *** are you talking about????? you had guys leapfrog zoo's division he was ruling with an iron fist.

you know that kostya zoo won the lww title in like his 14th fight or something like that right? that's the weight he fought at his whole career...you're wrapped up in this media hyped bullshi t about guys who go up in weight and grab belts from scrubs. do you know how mant world titlists kostya beat? how about thehurtado win? did you see that? do you remember the rep hurtado earned by smashing everyone but sweet pea by the time he fought zoo?

the problem with you gina is that you believe in all this hype nowadays where there are certain fighters who have this rep and a win over them means so much because of their name. that's all bullshi t, there were guys who were beasts back then that most of these floyd/oscar/mannY new fans don't see. Please note the different styles that kostya fought and murked. compare that to your heros from the current crop of fighters. just try and find a style of boxer from pure boxer to ****er to boxer puncher to virtuoso type fighter that zoo didnt beat

[Gino Ros]

what the *** are you talking about????? you

the problem with you gina

Hey, champ....sent you mail

[Walt Liquor]

Have you noticed it's always guys that love Mayweather that **** on Tszyu? Why is that? Have you also noticed that they have trouble knowing who is who and who did what?

I mean, since when did Corey Spinks knock Judah out faster than Money and for the Undisputed WW titles?

I also wonder if anyone was even a fan during that time? When Tszyu was fighting Judah, 140 was called, by nearly everyone, the most talented and deep division in boxing.

Sure, it's all so easy to look back now and say "There was nothing" but for those that actually watched boxing then and remember, 140 was the division in boxing and those guys were good fighters. Fights like Mitchell/Tszyu 2 was the most anticipated fight in boxing at the time.

But hey, you guys go pretend Mayweather is the best 130 pounder ever after beating umm........who did he beat again? Oh, that's right an old Hernandez and Corrales. Who else? About six other nobodies who never held any title. You **** on Tszyu's resume at 140 and call Mayweather the best 130 pounder ever?
When you fight about fifteen world champions compared to a few, how do they compare?

It's like the Cotto thing someone was talking about. People remember Quintana as a good fighter and excellent win for Cotto. It's because you saw him fight. In five years, morons like the majority in this thread will be saying "Who the **** was Quintana? He was a nobody. I ain't never done heard Mohammad Admulexveevev. Who da *** is dat? If I ain't heard of him he's nobody. He ian't Money Mai"

*sigh*

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!

good lord these people hear names and they think that it only matters if you beat dudes that someone like al haymon managed.

[Gino Ros]

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!

good lord these people hear names and they think that it only matters if you beat dudes that someone like al haymon managed.

I dunno who you are referring to. But you seem as though you think you're talking to somebody who started watching boxing when pac beat Oscar.

you would be wrong.

[Walt Liquor]

I agree Shane was past prime and it was not a clear victory, but, if you go up and down Tszyu's resume to try to match some one as good as that Mosley at the time Cotto fought him, you probably can't any one better. Name-wise, I would say Chavez is a better name than any one on Cotto's resume but that wouldn't be fair. It's like let's just call DLH a top 50 ATG since he has 2 wins over a younger, fresher 32+ year old Chavez. But I understand what you mean.

of course you can. zab and mag for starters

[Cash Cow]

what the *** are you talking about????? you had guys leapfrog zoo's division he was ruling with an iron fist.

you know that kostya zoo won the lww title in like his 14th fight or something like that right? that's the weight he fought at his whole career...you're wrapped up in this media hyped bullshi t about guys who go up in weight and grab belts from scrubs. do you know how mant world titlists kostya beat? how about thehurtado win? did you see that? do you remember the rep hurtado earned by smashing everyone but sweet pea by the time he fought zoo?

the problem with you gina is that you believe in all this hype nowadays where there are certain fighters who have this rep and a win over them means so much because of their name. that's all bullshi t, there were guys who were beasts back then that most of these floyd/oscar/mannY new fans don't see. Please note the different styles that kostya fought and murked. compare that to your heros from the current crop of fighters. just try and find a style of boxer from pure boxer to ****er to boxer puncher to virtuoso type fighter that zoo didnt beat

just cause you remain in a division beating b & c class fighters doesnt mean your a HOF...he ducked all of the elite A class fighters to remain in a less than steller 140lbs division during his "reign"......his most notable win is vs Zab Judah

[-Kev-]

of course you can. zab and mag for starters

Zab is equal to Mosley?

[Gino Ros]

Have you noticed it's always guys that love Mayweather that **** on Tszyu? *

who in this thread "shat on" Zoo?



Tell me who.