I'm Sorry. KOSTYA TSZYU is NOT a HoF'er. His Best Win is Zab Judah!!

[cupocity303]

Here is why I think he deserves his place in the HOF - which is subjective anyway, and there are no specific criteria to get in.

For the simple fact that Tszyu knocked out Judah in 2 and that it took Miguel Cotto 11 rounds, Floyd Mayweather all 12 to a decision win, Cory Spinks all 12. Nobody ever Mike Tyson'd him like that again.

That it took him 3 rounds to dispose of Sharmba Mitchell, and it took Paul Williams 4 and Floyd Mayweather 6 rounds.

Those are simple facts that are enough in my book.

[AddiX]

I know a lot of fans here are newer, but you really need to learn more about boxing and about the fighters and there accomplishments before you look at the record and make a ****** assumption about how there career "Lacks Names."

Especially when you don't know who any of the guys on the list are to begin with.

One thing you guys dont seem to understand is that, there are tough fights out there, that aren't big names.

Currently, all the top fighters duck those guys, back in the day, you had to clear those guys out before you ever got a shot at the top guys. Hagler legit cleaned his division out to get to Leonard.

[Gino Ros]

I don't know how true that is because Judah was suppose to be the man to actually beat him and Kostya fought him with no problem.

And, he was not content to stay with Showtime per say. He was signed to Showtime. At that time Showtime signed fighters just like HBO signed fighters.

I mean if we use that logic we can say the same thing about the other fighters that were on HBO. That they did not want to fight Tszyu cuz they were content to stay on HBO.

HBO fights were paying MUCH bigger purses, and you had more options for opposition.

[-Kev-]

Damn,

I wish people would stop saying Shane wasn't a 140 fighter.

I KNOW. But the very fact that
1) Shane went from 135 to 147, and
2) Shane was negotiating for a Mayweather fight at 137

tells me that a SSM vs Tszyu fight could have been made if the Oscar bout hadn't surfaced for Shane.

Did Zoo straight-up turn down a Floyd offer...or was that during one of his injured stints?

After Floyd fought Bruseles, I think it was that fight, in 2005 he called Tszyu but if I remember correctly Tszyu was about to fight Hatton then of course he lost and that fight never happened.

So no he didn't duck him, just bad timing.

[Gino Ros]

Here is why I think he deserves his place in the HOF - which is subjective anyway, and there are no specific criteria to get in.

For the simple fact that Tszyu knocked out Judah in 2 and that it took Miguel Cotto 11 rounds, Floyd Mayweather all 12 to a decision win, Cory Spinks all 12. Nobody ever Mike Tyson'd him like that again.

That it took him 3 rounds to dispose of Sharmba Mitchell, and it took Paul Williams 4 and Floyd Mayweather 6 rounds.

Those are simple facts that are enough in my book.

Whaddup, Vlad.

It's Doop. How are you?

This cat Addix thinks I started following boxing last week.

[Cash Cow]

Kostya tszyu fought a few bumms and now he's a HOF?? lol is that easy now huh?

He's a bumm who fought a few bus drivers and got his fame really when he beat judah (via a very lucky punch)

He had no skills what so ever,he was very flat flooted with a bad defense.

He's a QUITTER who did not have the heart to keep going against hatton,QUITTERS are NOT Hall of famers!!!!!!!!!!

I agree with this...who did Tszyu beat?....his beat win is vs an overated Zab Judah..and he quit against an overrated Hatton. When your most notable win is vs a Hype Job....ur not a HOF'er

[-Antonio-]

I like Tszyu as a fighter. I actually think he gets in more on the eye test. People saw him fight, saw how powerful he was, saw how he dominated a lot of his opponents.

But his resume? Way way way overrated.

Just read the names.

Ben Tackie? Sharmba Mitchell? Old Leija? OK thats the older oft-injured version of Tszyu but still.

He lost to an inferior fighter (Vince Phillips) in his prime. By TKO no less. Great fighters don't lose to guys like Vince Phillips in their prime and not at least avenge the defeat. Sure there are exceptions, but those guys have more quality WINS.

Again look at the wins even in his prime. Ancient JCC, old Mayweather, old Gonzales. All of those guys were heavily past their prime at the time.

What HOF did Toney beat that was over 40 years old? Or what run of dominance did he have?

I can count at least 4 guys Toney beat that I know for certain are better than anybody Tszyu beat on his resume. And Toney actually beat fighters in higher divisions. Good to great fighters.

[jrosales13]

HBO fights were paying MUCH bigger purses, and you had more options for opposition.

The point was that he was signed to Showtime for a portion of his career, is not like he was content in staying there. He just couldn't fight on HBO.

Just like HBO fighters who were signed to HBO could not fight on Showtime.

[-Kev-]

Yes you might wanna look that up.

You're trying too hard.

[Gino Ros]

After Floyd fought Bruseles, I think it was that fight, in 2005 he called Tszyu but if I remember correctly Tszyu was about to fight Hatton then of course he lost and that fight never happened.

So no he didn't duck him, just bad timing.

I remember that it wasn't a duck... I just don't remember what exactly happened.

I had shot Iole a question back then.