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Hey Dave, at least I still have all my hair!
On a more serious note, you are British, obviously you're going to stand up for Hamed. Just like you stand up for Calzaghe and the opponents that he chose to fight his entire career. No surprise really.
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Originally posted by Sweet Jesus View PostHey Dave, at least I still have all my hair!
Originally posted by Sweet Jesus View PostOn a more serious note, you are British, obviously you're going to stand up for Hamed. Just like you stand up for Calzaghe and the opponents that he chose to fight his entire career. No surprise really.Last edited by Dave Rado; 12-07-2010, 10:26 PM.
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Originally posted by Dave Rado View PostPathetic response.
Rubbish. I'm one of Haye's biggest critics and have been one of Khan's biggest critics as well. And I consider McGuigan to be the least deserving boxer in the Hall of Fame. I judge fighters on their exploits in the ring (and on who they duck), not on race, creed, nationality or how much hair they have - unlike you.
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Originally posted by Sweet Jesus View PostDon't hate. I'm a big Pavlik fan. Although I do have to say, I have listed why I think Tyson should be in the hall (Spinks/Holmes wins, youngest heavy champ, most exciting fighter of all time). The Hall of Fame seems to agree with me. I have yet to see any reasons from you as to why Hamed deserves to be in the Hall of Fame. Once again, the Hall agrees with me as to Hamed's place. At least this year.
He wasn't an ATG (although he had the talent to have been, but he wasted it) - but you don't have to be an ATG to be in the HoF. And despite what someone else said, while he was not the first major star in the lower weights, he was certainly the biggest star of his generation in the lower weights (below Lightweight) in terms of popularity and the interest he generated among casual fans.
Holmes was way past his prime when Tyson beat him (and was also coming off a 2 year lay-off); and Spinks was a Light Heavyweight. Those wins were no better than Hamed's wins while he was clearing out the division.
Most boxing experts who have a vote in the HoF ballot and who have said anything on the subject think Hamed will get in sooner or later.Last edited by Dave Rado; 12-07-2010, 11:03 PM.
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Originally posted by Dave Rado View PostIt's been covered endlessly by others in this thread. He had a long reign, cleaned out the division, beating every champion, had many solid wins, was very exciting to watch, had incredible reflexes, and despite what you claim, was very skilled in his early career (later he fell in love with his power and neglected his skills and his training, and declined rapidly - a bit like Tyson did). And P4P he was one of the hardest punchers of all time (The Ring rate him #46 in their list of the greatest punchers of all time).
He wasn't an ATG (although he had the talent to have been, but he wasted it) - but you don't have to be an ATG to be in the HoF. And despite what someone else said, while he was not the first major star in the lower weights, he was certainly the biggest star of his generation in the lower weights (below Lightweight) in terms of popularity and the interest he generated among casual fans.
Holmes was way past his prime when Tyson beat him (and was also coming off a 2 year lay-off); and Spinks was a Light Heavyweight. Those wins were no better than Hamed's wins while he was clearing out the division.
Most boxing experts who have a vote in the HoF ballot and who have said anything on the subject think Hamed will get in sooner or later.
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Originally posted by -Antonio- View PostI really don't understand why Tszyu is a slam dunk first ballot HOF but Hamed is not. Look at their careers and you can argue Hamed's was more impressive.
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Originally posted by Dave Rado View PostIt's been covered endlessly by others in this thread. He had a long reign, cleaned out the division, beating every champion, had many solid wins, was very exciting to watch, had incredible reflexes, and despite what you claim, was very skilled in his early career (later he fell in love with his power and neglected his skills and his training, and declined rapidly - a bit like Tyson did). And P4P he was one of the hardest punchers of all time (The Ring rate him #46 in their list of the greatest punchers of all time).
He wasn't an ATG (although he had the talent to have been, but he wasted it) - but you don't have to be an ATG to be in the HoF. And despite what someone else said, while he was not the first major star in the lower weights, he was certainly the biggest star of his generation in the lower weights (below Lightweight) in terms of popularity and the interest he generated among casual fans.
Holmes was way past his prime when Tyson beat him (and was also coming off a 2 year lay-off); and Spinks was a Light Heavyweight. Those wins were no better than Hamed's wins while he was clearing out the division.
Most boxing experts who have a vote in the HoF ballot and who have said anything on the subject think Hamed will get in sooner or later.
Can you please specify the boxers he fought and the result of the fight during this period early in his career that he showed his skill.
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