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Well good, I am glad there is something we can agree on then and there is no blind hate. Just like I can agree that as of this point, Lewis is ahead of both Vitaly and Wlad in the rankings in terms of accomplishments.
Of course if were to argue h2h in a pure fantasy match-up, I would put Vitaly as #1 of all time, a peak Wlad of right now, maybe at #4 or #5 h2h of all time.Comment
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No he doesnt.
Lennox Lewis was KTFO by a Tyson sparring partner in Mccall.
Vitalis regarded as the better of the 2 brothers yet he was stopped by a fat old past prime Lewis.Comment
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I remember an interview where the young Lennox Lewis goes to Mike Tyson's training camp and sees him training. Lewis said. "I do not wanna mess with this guy"...
To compare Mike Tyson to Klitschko is INCREDIBLY ******. Klitschko will never have a Tyson type aura.Comment
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Originally Posted by Die Antwoord
Uhh...Heres the difference no one is picking up on.
Tyson's aura and terror was mostly to the fans and possibly LHW Michael Spinks. Thats where it ended. Other people weren't afraid of him. Heck, even Big George was begging him for a fight for years. Sure he had respect from other boxers, but whenever a live opponent got in the ring with Tyson, I mean someone who was close to prime, and in the top 15 ranked heavies, they always came out to win. Tyson was a great bum beater. Possibly the greatest. I dont mean that like, he fought only bums, I mean, if you put him in the ring with a journeyman, you knew what would happen.
Wlad's aura is much different. Wlad is aura is over other boxers. First of all, dont understimate the size. Guys see Wlad, and see this 6'6 1/2, physical freak. Tyson was ripped, but guys looked down at him, here's Wlad and all guys see is muscle as they look up at him. I read an article a while back in a weight lifting mag about how Wlad is much more physically imposing in person and how you dont really even appreciate how big he is until youre in the room with him. Then you have the fact Wlad gives you no opportunities to win. So even if guys do have the balls to fight him, he is going to punch them in the face, stay cool and collected and not give them opportunities. Top that off with the fact that Wlad is the reason why MMA is "safer" than boxing. Tyson is like MMA, it would be over quick or steam would start coming off those punches. Wlad, youre going to take repeated head trauma. It wont be quick, it will hurt and you will be seriously injured. You might feel a little better about yourself after losing to Wlad by TKO in the 9th as opposed to KO 1 for Tyson, but it wont matter because after Wlad you might never fight again.
Just want to emphasize those bolded points of yours above. They are very true. To the boxing fans Tyson was animal, a scarry animal that they would not want to be locked in the same room with alone, because he was an animal (****, multiple assaults that still continue to this day, ear-biting, etc.). But to other pro-boxers, Tyson was not intimidating, they knew they had a shot against him and were willing to take a beating for big payday.
Now take Wlad, to the average person on the street, he is a nice guy, a PhD, speaks 4 languages, a polite gentleman, a guy that a girl could bring to her parents basically. So he is not intimidating to the average fan, in fact, Wlad would be someone you could talk **** to on the street and know he is not going to cave your face in because you know he will control himself.
But to a pro-boxer, Wlad is a ****ing monster, a monster that Tyson never was. Wlad gives a fighter such a beating, that those beating wind up being career-ending beatings, he takes a fighter's soul and physical health. Especially to supposedly "street-thug" type boxers, they can't understand how this supposedly "pansy" who is a doctor and speaks four languages and helps old ladies across the street, just gave them the worst beating of their lives. That's why Wlad is more intimidating than Tyson - to other pro-boxers.Last edited by WladIsTheChamp; 12-06-2010, 11:56 AM.Comment
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Didn't see the peter fight but I don't remember Chambers running the entire fight and trying to hold....heck he even lifted Wald up like he was gonna throw him down lol. He didn't start running until he knew he couldn't win and just wanted to survive. Not to mention you don't even have to worry about Wald chasing you like Tyson did . Tyson would stalk you like prey while Wald mostly throws jabs then hits you with the straight right.Comment
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wlad is no where near to tyson.
tyson is a top 10 ATG.
WLAD IS NOT. and will never be at this rate.
it's ******ed & beyond imagination to even argue it...at least you get a nice giggle off of the buffoonery though.
anyway.
end/threadLast edited by americanbot; 12-06-2010, 07:12 PM.Comment
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Not even close.Comment
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