Does wlad now possess a tyson type aura?

[SplitSecond]

boxers that feel fear, are bums

[Forza]

The K bros style is boring to watch and they are not physically intimidating like tyson. but I would bet any money vitali could either beat a prime tyson or give him a hell of a fight.

[americanbot]

The K bros style is boring to watch and they are not physically intimidating like tyson. but I would bet any money vitali could either beat a prime tyson or give him a hell of a fight.

i think that vitali can give prime tyson a good fight but i don't think he can beat him. i also think vitali would be in danger of being knocked out within the 1st to 3 rounds against 88 tyson if he wasn't careful.

i don't think wlad has ANY chance against prime tyson to be honest.....

[americanbot]

the closest style that tyson fought compared to vitali was golota who fights in the same style. golota is NOT vitali. but thats the closest style wise. as you can see tyson didn't wait for golota to start pumping that jab. he just SWARMED his way in. bobbed and weaved his way in.

[Ravens Fan]

i think that vitali can give prime tyson a good fight but i don't think he can beat him. i also think vitali would be in danger of being knocked out within the 1st to 3 rounds against 88 tyson if he wasn't careful.

i don't think wlad has ANY chance against prime tyson to be honest.....

Buster was stopped three times before he faced Tyson. And he used his jab to back up and beat a prime Tyson. Again remember this is Buster Douglas we are talking about. With that said and considering the fact that Wlad has one of the best jabs in heavyweight history and he also does a great job of tying up fighters on the inside. Therefore I would have given Wlad an excellent chance to beat a prime Tyson.

[badteef]

"Does wlad now possess a tyson type aura?"


No.

[Haglerwins]

Buster was stopped three times before he faced Tyson. And he used his jab to back up and beat a prime Tyson. Again remember this is Buster Douglas we are talking about. With that said and considering the fact that Wlad has one of the best jabs in heavyweight history and he also does a great job of tying up fighters on the inside. Therefore I would have given Wlad an excellent chance to beat a prime Tyson.

You people need to get over that Buster Douglas fight. Mike didn't train seriously for it, was ready to quit on camp if his team made him do basic **** like run. You watch the fight and he's not trying to swarm in with the head movement or anything really, he's already very docile compared to earlier fights.

Mike even says his career was OVER by 1990. He wasn't the monster Cus trained anymore even though the rep lasted throughout the majority of his career.

[Ravens Fan]

You people need to get over that Buster Douglas fight. Mike didn't train seriously for it, was ready to quit on camp if his team made him do basic **** like run. You watch the fight and he's not trying to swarm in with the head movement or anything really, he's already very docile compared to earlier fights.

Mike even says his career was OVER by 1990. He wasn't the monster Cus trained anymore even though the rep lasted throughout the majority of his career.

His career was over by 1990? He was 24 years old and in his prime in 1990. In fact after the Douglas fight he went back to blowing out his opponents, and even after his prison time he was able to win a couple of belts. Unfortunately Douglas also reverted back to his old self which was being a lazy turd. With that said I tell you how I saw the fight.

Tyson came in at 220 pounds so obviously he trained. Because when you don't train, see the Douglas-Holyfield fight, that's what happens. What I believe is that Douglas came into the fight unafraid of the big bad Mike Tyson. And Tyson was blowing his opponents out so he did not know how to handle a fighter that was not afraid of him and was backing him up. But I will say that I am sure it did not help that Rooney was gone. However, it was not a situation that some kind of transformation needed to take place. Such as say when Manny became Wlad's trainer. I will also add, and this is just my opinion, that it's not like ole Buster didn't have world class boxing skills. His problem was that he was lazy and he did not have a world class heart to go along with his skills. However, on one night in February of 1990 he was able to put it all together and become the World Heavyweight Champion.

In closing I will say that you dare to tell someone they need to get over something. When obviously you are the one who needs to get over the fact that Tyson got his a$$ whopped by a 42-1 underdog.

[CarlosG815]

His career was over by 1990? He was 24 years old and in his prime in 1990. In fact after the Douglas fight he went back to blowing out his opponents, and even after his prison time he was able to win a couple of belts. Unfortunately Douglas also reverted back to his old self which was being a lazy turd. With that said I tell you how I saw the fight.

Tyson came in at 220 pounds so obviously he trained. Because when you don't train, see the Douglas-Holyfield fight, that's what happens. What I believe is that Douglas came into the fight unafraid of the big bad Mike Tyson. And Tyson was blowing his opponents out so he did not know how to handle a fighter that was not afraid of him and was backing him up. But I will say that I am sure it did not help that Rooney was gone. However, it was not a situation that some kind of transformation needed to take place. Such as say when Manny became Wlad's trainer. I will also add, and this is just my opinion, that it's not like ole Buster didn't have world class boxing skills. His problem was that he was lazy and he did not have a world class heart to go along with his skills. However, on one night in February of 1990 he was able to put it all together and become the World Heavyweight Champion.

In closing I will say that you dare to tell someone they need to get over something. When obviously you are the one who needs to get over the fact that Tyson got his a$$ whopped by a 42-1 underdog.

You do realize that by 24 years old he had near 40 professional fights and had made more money than any boxer in history.

People like to talk about how short Tyson's prime was but don't take into account that at one point he was 37-0 and before his second loss to Evander after prison, he was 45-1, and even with all the prison and suspension he still had 58 total fights.

Evander had a longer career and had no prison and other bans yet he only had 55 professional fights, and Lennox Lewis has only had 44 total fights.

Despite Lennox fighting mainly past prime fighters, he is 41 and 2 with some questionable decisions, and when Mike was 29 he was 45 wins and 1 loss, having fought every top contender of the time. Tyson ducked nobody and fought all the best, and that is why he is known the way he is and nobody looks at guys like Lennox, Wlad, Vitali, etc, in the same light.

Tyson's "short" prime is bull****. The guy fought a ton of fights and got burnt out quick. You can only be so disciplined. How many can honestly say they could handle, at 20 years of age, being the richest boxer and undisputed champion of the world? Honestly, who could do that without slipping up on discipline? Money, women, cars, scandals, boxing corruption, etc...

How would you handle it?

[Ravens Fan]

You do realize that by 24 years old he had near 40 professional fights and had made more money than any boxer in history.

People like to talk about how short Tyson's prime was but don't take into account that at one point he was 37-0 and before his second loss to Evander after prison, he was 45-1, and even with all the prison and suspension he still had 58 total fights.

Evander had a longer career and had no prison and other bans yet he only had 55 professional fights, and Lennox Lewis has only had 44 total fights.

Despite Lennox fighting mainly past prime fighters, he is 41 and 2 with some questionable decisions, and when Mike was 29 he was 45 wins and 1 loss, having fought every top contender of the time. Tyson ducked nobody and fought all the best, and that is why he is known the way he is and nobody looks at guys like Lennox, Wlad, Vitali, etc, in the same light.

Tyson's "short" prime is bull****. The guy fought a ton of fights and got burnt out quick. You can only be so disciplined. How many can honestly say they could handle, at 20 years of age, being the richest boxer and undisputed champion of the world? Honestly, who could do that without slipping up on discipline? Money, women, cars, scandals, boxing corruption, etc...

How would you handle it?

I was not dis*****g Tyson's record I was only implying that he was still in his prime when he fought Douglas. And as far as I can tell you only helped to prove my point. And just for clarification I would like to point out a couple of minor mistakes on your part.

Tyson did not become the undisputed alphabet champ until after his win against Tucker for the IBF belt. He was also not recognized as the linear champ until after he beat Spinks. Both of those fights were after his 21st birthday. Also, before his second loss to Holyfield he had already lost twice. And since you mentioned the Klit brothers I will sate what I think about comparing the bros to Tyson, or at least Wlad.

Tyson beat some decent fighters as champ. He beat a slew of alphabet champs such as Smith, Tubbs, Bruno etc. Tyson actually fought and beat seven alphabet title holders. I did not count Holmes, Spinks, Holyfield or Lewis simply because they were a little more then just belt holders,but more on them latter. Well back to the point I was trying to make. Wlad has also fought seven belt holders and won. What I am saying is that both of them fought top 10 fighters on a regular bases and usually won. And you can argue all you want that Tyson's competition was better but these are the facts. Tyson's record is far from paved with Hall of Fame fighters. And of the four he fought. One was a very old 39 the other was sacred stiff and never fought again. And the other two beat Tyson and they both happened to be older then him. I just want to state again that I am not trying to discredit Tyson in anyway I am just trying to say that Wlad's and Tyson's championship records aren't all that much different.

As far as the Klit bros are concerned I believe the biggest problem the they have with their place in history is with each other. Because there is no doubt in my mind that if they were not bros and fought each other the winner would have no problem being recognized as an all time great by most knowledgeable boxing fans.