So Cotto is the one fighting Martinez and not Pacquiao?????!!

[puga]

You can't use logic with Pac tards. It's like beating a dead horse.

here's a simple logic for you dumbasses i'll do it with your standrads too:

you mofos say sergio and martinez are the same size...

margo fought pac at 150 without the any problems making weight

why cant sergio?....lol

here's another one:

you mofos say pac should fight jmm at 135

thats 8 lbs lower than pac's last officail weight

150 is 8 lbs less than sergio's last official weight

how come it's ok for pac to lose 8 lbs but not sergio when it's easier for a big guy to lose that much than fro a little guy?...
..

[Iceta Lives]

What the hell about the Margarito and Cotto fights have you convinced Pacquiao is a duck for not fighting the middleweight champion!? I don't f***ing get it!! Explain it to me!! How does victories over Cotto at 145 and a past it Margarito at 150, where Margarito had never fought before, make you people think he can fight Martinez!? Because he has a bullsh** belt at 154!?

Damn, common f***ing sense people. Whatever, I'm out.

So you admit Pacquiao fought Margarito and Cotto because he thought they were vulnerable rather than them being at their best?

[SP1]

so manny can drain fighters and its ok...but fighting at a lil lower weight is unheard of??

These idiots will never give up.

Forget belts and weight classes for a second and realise how Margo has been fighting at 147 for virtually his entire career and his fight against Mosley was a 147 so how on earth is he being weight drained for a fight at 150 lbs? Like I said forget about the JMW limit for now and explain how on earth was Margo drained?

Miguel Cotto had to drop an additional pound when compared to his weigh in weight in his previous fight where he came in at 146lbs. You are trying to tell me an extra pound is going to f'uck up your entire preparations and it is that hard to lose an extra pound.

I swear most of you 'experts' would not have even been aware of the true extent of weight draining before Oscar fought Manny. Nobody seemed to make such a huge deal on weight draining before that fight and now some of you walk around with it like a chip on your shoulders and try to use that as a legitimate excuse for a fighters loss.

And Manny is not the one draining the fighters dummy, its Roach and co. Manny just lays the beating on this dudes. Idiots complain about a fighter having to lose an extra pound but when they add on 20 lbs for the fight then they start having bouts of amnesia and turn into hyporcrits.

[SP1]

So you admit Pacquiao fought Margarito and Cotto because he thought they were vulnerable rather than them being at their best?

Dude give it up lol. Manny said he would fight Margo after he beat Cotto and that is when every1 was on Margos nutsack.

How many times has he called out Floyd? Who do you want him to fight?

He fought Morales, Marquez and Barera who were all in their primes but you only know about the Manny Pacquiao after he beat Oscar.

[bojangles1987]

So you admit Pacquiao fought Margarito and Cotto because he thought they were vulnerable rather than them being at their best?

Margarito, definitely. I was against that fight the second it was rumored, didn't buy it, didn't support it in any way, and didn't overreact when Pac did what he did because that's what he was supposed to do.

The Cotto fight, that was against one of the two best welterweights in the world. If people want to think badly of the 145 catchweight, I'm not going to argue because I can't say Pac didn't get an advantage because of it, but it didn't look like Cotto was that effected to me. I think that fight was more about Cotto being Top Rank, and Arum knowing making a fight with him was easier than anyone else Pac could test the welterweight waters against.

You seem to think I'm some hardcore *******, when my stance is that it's just common sense that fighting Martinez is a massive step for Pacquiao he just can't do. Saying he is ducking the guy is ridiculous.

[Iceta Lives]

Dude give it up lol. Manny said he would fight Margo after he beat Cotto and that is when every1 was on Margos nutsack.

How many times has he called out Floyd? Who do you want him to fight?

He fought Morales, Marquez and Barera who were all in their primes but you only know about the Manny Pacquiao after he beat Oscar.

If Pacquaio was serious about fighting Margarito then, it would've happened because they were both promoted by Top Rank. Pacquiao jumped on Margarito after he saw Mosley knock his ass out and now he is jumping on Mosley now that Mosley got shut down by Floyd and fought an epic fight with a Contender.

[freedom213]

How the hell is Arum gonna say Martinez is too dangerous or too big for Pacquiao and then at the same time feed Cotto to him when Pac would stand a better chance against him because he's better than Cotto is obviously. I guess the thing about Cotto is he's taken punishment and has been through the meet grinder because he lacks the ability to be elite like Pac does. But regardless of my rep as a Cotto hater, (And I don't like the catch weight either, even if it's not all Cotto's fault) he is putting Pacquiao to shame and Arum is such a contradictor by making a Cotto-Martinez fight instead of a Pac-Martinez fight.

pretty soon you'll have a Cotto Avatar and sig and be head cheerleader for the Cotto cartel.... a reformed hater if you will.

[freedom213]

So you admit Pacquiao fought Margarito and Cotto because he thought they were vulnerable rather than them being at their best?

facts are facts and undebatable, but just as correct is the fact that Pac fought the most lucrative fights he could make in those same opponents also(with the exception of Clottey). Regarding draining Cotto, Toney and Oscar, those were big advantages no doubt, because had the fighters came in over weight im sure the $$$$penalties would have been massive. Thats a hell of a lot of added pressure hanging over a fighters head during training. How big of a factor was it? Who really knows but the fighters themselves, probably not a main deciding factor but again a Pac advantage.

[LoadedWraps]

Pac doesn't want it with Mara, and Cotto is fighting margs in april I believe. ( and will lose)

[Las Vegas,]

Arum/Roach/Duckiao want no part of Martinez, JMM, Berto, Bradley, Alexander, instead they want Sugar Shane Nosley.

Also, Cotto vs. Martinez is a great match up.