Comments Thread For: Arum: Martinez at 155? Pacquiao is Great, Not Superman

[GRUSTLER]

This is good, this is cool mang !! You make yer case well. You have struggled with the wins of the Pacman for many fights now. You guessed wrong so many times now, its got to be frustrating.

You know Hopkins, you surely know others, and possibly know the Mayweathers,,, GET HIM TO SIGN THE CONTRACT !!

Actually Pac would have a harder time fight May Jr than he would Martinez. Martinez is more apt to KO Pac than May jr. ever would, he is more feather fisted, and not proven in the WELTERWEIGHT division. I mean can you name ONE elite fighter in his prime that Mayweather has beaten ? Pac HAS, several of them. Beaten or not, they are in their prime,,,,COTTO, Margo, Clottey, before you start in on Mosley remember MOSLEY was an OLD MAN, had many LOSSES, like you know people want to say that May done beat him and here comes Pac and beats him cause May done beat him, hahaha

COTTO beat MOSLEY before May whipped him, Cotto never got cracked like May did, Cottos got a better chin than May does, proved that when Mosley cracked his jaw. Now this is childish $#!* talk . By the way Cotto was good until he ran into Mannys POWER !!!!!

We all know you desperately want to see Pac get KO'd like we all want to see May get KO'd, so if you have connections go find May,

drop all the wicked vile talk

drop the silly excuse of DRUGS

Sign the contract

LETS GET IT ON !!!!!!!!!

Who cares if I picked against Pacquiao in the past and was wrong
because I have picked out winners as well on Boxingscene so what's
your point? I was fooled just like the rest of the boxing fans were
when thinking that Manny was being given challenges. Actually
you should be showing more respect that I did pick against him
as a Pac fan because in some ways that makes Pac fans argument
that he was up for a challenge but all of Pac fans knew that all
of his opponents as of recent was not. I picked against Manny
because I don't see him as a great fighter and can be beat rather
easily if a fighter/boxer has a plan that doesn't include no defense.
Can you name one PRIMED fighter that Pac fought? Or even people
thinking he had challenges ahead of him? The only threat at the
time to Pac before Floyd fought him was Mosley and they turned
him down. Below is the quotes to prove it. Mayweather wins
at WW is more impressive than Pacquiao's because 1. Mayweather
beat the former undisputed WW champ Zab Judah and the guy who
beat him Carlos Baldomir to become the Lineal Champion. Manny
fought Oscar,Cotto and Clottey at WW and none of it meant SQUAT.
Only for a catchweight title. Mosley would have solidified Pac's
claim at WW over Floyd but that fight didn't happen. Floyd has
a more impressive win at WW than Pac hands down. The only thing
Pac has over Floyd is excitement.

Mayweather, however, has a chance to at least shush the critics now that he is finally going to face an elite welterweight in champion Shane Mosley.

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...dan&id=5146915

Haven't heard that about Pacquiao's foes in a looooong time!

"Shane called me earlier [Monday] and said that's it, he's had it," Shaefer said. "He's not waiting around anymore. He said, 'This guy [Pacquiao] is obviously scared of me. So let's move on.' Sugar Shane Mosley's career has not been built around Pacquiao. He already has a legacy of greatness. But eventually a Mayweather or Cotto or Pacquiao will need him. That day will come."

http://espn.go.com/sports/boxing/blo...pacquiao-dream

CASE CLOSED! Pac needs to fight someone that means something
to his claim as P4P. Right now, mostly everyone (Not just me) sees
him as a hype job, who most likely will not look that impressive
against guys that can actually box and are defensive.

[generivera100]

I honestly think Pac has a good chance against Martinez.

Arum has to realize that it's a no-lose situation for Pac. Even if Pac loses, as long as he stays competitive against the #3 P4P guy who is 20 to 25 pounds heavier than him, Pac would make his case stronger as one of the ALL TIME GREATESTS.

And imagine if he wins, his rep will just blow through the roof!!!

[WESS]

Who cares if I picked against Pacquiao in the past and was wrong
because I have picked out winners as well on Boxingscene so what's
your point? I was fooled just like the rest of the boxing fans were
when thinking that Manny was being given challenges. Actually
you should be showing more respect that I did pick against him
as a Pac fan because in some ways that makes Pac fans argument
that he was up for a challenge but all of Pac fans knew that all
of his opponents as of recent was not. I picked against Manny
because I don't see him as a great fighter and can be beat rather
easily if a fighter/boxer has a plan that doesn't include no defense.
Can you name one PRIMED fighter that Pac fought? Or even people
thinking he had challenges ahead of him? The only threat at the
time to Pac before Floyd fought him was Mosley and they turned
him down. Below is the quotes to prove it. Mayweather wins
at WW is more impressive than Pacquiao's because 1. Mayweather
beat the former undisputed WW champ Zab Judah and the guy who
beat him Carlos Baldomir to become the Lineal Champion. Manny
fought Oscar,Cotto and Clottey at WW and none of it meant SQUAT.
Only for a catchweight title. Mosley would have solidified Pac's
claim at WW over Floyd but that fight didn't happen. Floyd has
a more impressive win at WW than Pac hands down. The only thing
Pac has over Floyd is excitement.



Haven't heard that about Pacquiao's foes in a looooong time!




CASE CLOSED! Pac needs to fight someone that means something
to his claim as P4P. Right now, mostly everyone (Not just me) sees
him as a hype job, who most likely will not look that impressive
against guys that can actually box and are defensive.

I don't know how many times you'll have to keep posting these quotes from Team Pac before they see the light. The very few bright ones actually see the truth but have so much hate towards Mayweather and a lot of pride towards Pac that they'll ignore the facts even when you present it to them in clear fashion. It's very disturbing because once you show these simpletons the truth the first response you get is.... "but but Mayweather", as if comparing Pac to Mayweather validates there argument...

A lot of these pacterd fanboys are on the edge of there seat right now because they know deep down inside that if Pac doesn't fight either Mayweather AT 147 for the WW title and the undisputed #1 P4P spot, Martinez AT 154 for JMW title or Berto AT 147 to unify the WW titles and at the VERY least fight Bradley/Alexander AT 140 to 147 and JMM AT 140 (NOT 147) he will in fact be exposed as "ducking", being a "coward" and a lot of the shyt talking Mayweather has done in the past about Pac will be validated.

Again Top Rank better "choose" wisely. I'm still puzzled as why Arum is on a race (again) to get an a opponent for Pac. I think he said he would have one "picked" by December 19th or something? I wonder why he cant wait until after the first of the year.

[LeadUppercut]

I honestly think Pac has a good chance against Martinez.

Arum has to realize that it's a no-lose situation for Pac. Even if Pac loses, as long as he stays competitive against the #3 P4P guy who is 20 to 25 pounds heavier than him, Pac would make his case stronger as one of the ALL TIME GREATESTS.

And imagine if he wins, his rep will just blow through the roof!!!

Put down your Manny-doll and go back to bed, ya silly kid.

Manny "padded" Pacquiao aint going anywhere near Sergio Martinez.

Manny will not fight a skilled boxer/counter-puncher, and he will not fight anyone who is on top of their game. The reason why you cannot see that, is because you wouldn't know a good fighter if he punched you in the face.

Manny Pacquiao is a coward for ducking Sergio Martinez. If JMM can go up two divisions to WW, then surely Manny can defend his JMW title at 154. What a b1tch Manny.

Manny "padded" Pacquiao is still too piss-scared of Marquez to even think about Sergio.

Manny "padded" Pacquiao is a joke. Top Rank smoke and mirrors.

Team Pacquiao.....
Still piss-scared of Marquez, since 2004

[LeadUppercut]

Manny Pacquiao is a coward.....

1.) Manny Pacquiao is a coward for claiming to be an 8-division champion, and yet being too scared to EVER fight an actual JMW oppenent.

2.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for ducking Mayweather back in December, either that or he is a steroid cheat. He didn't want none of Mayweather or the tests, thats for sure.

3.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for ducking Sergio Martinez. If JMM can go up two divisions to WW, then surely Manny can defend his JMW title at 154. What a b1tch Manny.

4.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for demanding a catch-weight for Cotto. There are two reasons to demand a catch-weight, either you are not good enough to compete with that fighter at his natural weight, which is fine..... or you are attempting to drain him to gain an unfair advantage, which is cowardly. Team Pacquiao tried to drain Cotto, because Manny had already fought at 147.

5.) Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for ducking Shane Mosley - TWICE !!

6.) And Manny "padded" Pacquiao is also a dirty coward for refusing to fight Marquez unless the fight is held at 147.

Manny "padded" Pacquiao is a joke. Top Rank smoke and mirrors.

Team Pacquiao.....
Still piss-scared of Marquez, since 2004

[KingOfBox]

maxim was 15 pounds bigger than robinson and ray got tkoed!...armstrong was never outweighed by any of his opponenets by much, sometimes he was the bigger guy, the most was vs ceferino garcia who only outweighed him by 10 lbs, ..nice try tho!...if pac fights sergio at 154, he'd be ouweighed by atleast 20 lbs fight night ..

This is all typical Pacfan syndrome... assuming or making others believe that it is significant that Sergio would weigh in 20 lbs over 154. I'll say this again!!!! (1. Margarito is way bigger than Sergio (2. Why are Bob and Manny so scared of doing a catchweight all of a sudden? (3. The 154 lb title Manny won is a fluke and it is no mistake that he didn't face either of the 2 best men at 154 to earn it in Martinez or Williams. (4. Bob can make Sergio weigh whatever he wants on fight night contractually. (5. If Sergio wants to weight 170 after the weigh in, HE CAN!!! It's HIS right!!! He is still the one who has to get to 154. (6. The weight is 154... Why should Pacman get special treatment. (7. Pacman = the most overrated boxer in history.