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  • GRUSTLER
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    #231
    [QUOTE=Sugar Q;9612793]
    Originally posted by switchsouthpaw


    Dude we can go back and forth on this but let's at least call it what it really was:

    May vs Cotto = May called him out when he was coming up from 135 but Cotto said NO WAY!
    May vs Margarito = More hype than anything
    May vs PWillz = If he get's pass Martinez
    May vs Martinez = If he get's pass PWillz
    May vs Pac = Excuses, religious, afraid of needles, Team Pac doesn't really wanna see it happen.
    I never was sold on the whole Floyd ducking Cotto thing.
    Cotto wasn't even ready for Floyd when he moved up to
    140 and Cotto was fighting there longer. Both Hatton and
    Cotto was at the Gatti fight to be next opponents for Floyd
    and both were looking ****** when the camera was in their
    face. Cotto didn't even look in the camera. He was focused
    watching Floyd dominate Gatti (A fighter Cotto was supposed
    to fight if Gatti beat Baldomir). All I know is Arum was singing
    this tune when it came to Cotto/Floyd.....

    "We're looking for guys like Ricky Hatton and 'Pretty Boy' Floyd Mayweather. So you're seeing now the finishing touches on the emerging superstar, and in 2006 hopefully he will be able to claim the mantle of the real, real superstar."

    Hatton emerged as the recognized 140-pound champion with his TKO of Kostya Tszyu June 11. Mayweather, the pound-for-pound king who is also promoted by Arum, stopped Arturo Gatti to claim a junior welterweight title two weeks later.

    Cotto against either man would certainly qualify as a super fight, but before either match can be explored seriously, he has to keep winning." Bob Arum.

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    • GRUSTLER
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      #232
      Originally posted by switchsouthpaw
      I agree with you. What did Mayweather say in regards to PWill, when that fight was brought up to him, which it was many times?
      Floyd said "Paul Williams who"? and Manny said "NO".
      After Mosley, Floyd did show interest in fighting Sergio
      Martinez. Said it in the ring. Floyd should just keep
      fighting.
      Last edited by GRUSTLER; 11-18-2010, 03:36 PM.

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        #233
        Here's my whole take on the Cotto/Floyd debate.
        To me, Cotto is good but not great. He mostly
        relied on his power and pressure. Once you put
        somebody in the ring with him that wasn't bothered
        by it, hen Cotto was struggling to get by or he loss.
        Floyd fought Bruseles, who was trained by Evangelista
        Cotto and Sparred with Miguel Cotto and Floyd beat
        the crap out of Bruseles AND Cotto was there watching.
        Cotto has more skill than Bruseles but they still shared
        the same trainer. I too think that the fight should have
        happened when both fighters were undefeated but no
        way would I have picked Cotto to win. Boxing politics
        kept that fight from happening like it is happening in the
        sport now. Cotto and Margarito both showed that they
        were a lil too limited to totally dominate the stiffer
        competition. The match between them was more
        of who could impose their will on the other and
        Margarito out willed him.
        Last edited by GRUSTLER; 11-18-2010, 03:59 PM.

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          #234
          Originally posted by Sugar Q
          But what happens when he fights a guy that's as quick and accurate as he is, moves as good as he does and is a far better defensive fighter? Manny has fought 2 kinds of fighters as of late:
          1) Fighters like Oscar and Clottey that sit right in front of you.
          2) Bravado fighters that come straight at you trying to over power you like Hatton, Cotto and Cheato.

          The last time Manny fought anything close to a sound technician was JMM.
          and knocked him down 4 times.

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            #235
            Originally posted by Sugar Q
            If May beat Pwillz back then it would've been "so what" but how much bigger will the fight be if PWillz becomes Middle-wt champion? Or Martinez after beating PWillz? Patience dude!!!! Floyd fights meaningful fights not damaged fighters coming off losses for meaningless paper belts.
            Lol no it wouldn't have, that's an excuse May fans use in order to justify his choices or lack thereof.

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              #236
              Originally posted by Sugar Q
              If May beat Pwillz back then it would've been "so what" but how much bigger will the fight be if PWillz becomes Middle-wt champion? Or Martinez after beating PWillz? Patience dude!!!! Floyd fights meaningful fights not damaged fighters coming off losses for meaningless paper belts.
              Marquez was meaningful? To who? lol

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                #237
                Originally posted by Sugar Q
                If May beat Pwillz back then it would've been "so what" but how much bigger will the fight be if PWillz becomes Middle-wt champion? Or Martinez after beating PWillz? Patience dude!!!! Floyd fights meaningful fights not damaged fighters coming off losses for meaningless paper belts.
                Judah ring a bell?
                How about Gatti?
                Demarcus Corley anyone?


                Floyd fans should never talk about anyone fighting damaged fighters coming off losses or fighters with paper belts.

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                  #238
                  Originally posted by GRUSTLER
                  Floyd said "Paul Williams who"? and Manny said "NO".
                  After Mosley, Floyd did show interest in fighting Sergio
                  Martinez. Said it in the ring. Floyd should just keep
                  fighting.
                  Lol Grus I respect you but c'mon you can believe that someone who is simply "feinting" interest, is the same thing as showing "genuine" interes? Mayweather loves to talk, a lot of it is bull**** because he never follows through.

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                    #239
                    Originally posted by switchsouthpaw
                    Lol no it wouldn't have, that's an excuse May fans use in order to justify his choices or lack thereof.

                    Paul loss to Quintana
                    Many think he loss to Martinez
                    and he was not looking too good against Cintron
                    If PWillz was still unbeaten the fight would've happened. The only way to redeem himself is a big win over Martinez.

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                      #240
                      Originally posted by switchsouthpaw
                      Marquez was meaningful? To who? lol
                      To the world, especially with Manny ducking him and him being ranked #2 P4P at the time. I thought he would be tougher.

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