Comments Thread For: Arum: Pacquiao-Berto Possible; Koncz: Mosley Most Likely

[ADP02]

Are you failing to realize that Mayweather fought a Mosley that the boxing world was accusing him of "ducking."

Did you realize ... That didn't make Mosley look any younger did it?

Anyhow, the buzz was mostly happening in 2009 after Mosley beat Margo but Mosley fought Floyd almost 1.5 years later. By then, even those who gave Mosley a chance had to re-examine the situation. That is why the change of mind by some people.

Now that he beat Mosley, very convincingly, Pacquiao would rather fight him or JMM (who didn't finish well against Diaz, who's fallen off in his own right).

Many wants FLOYD but Floyd is on vacation. So he is checking out who can give him a good fight, has a name, and can help generate the money.

Pacquiao's clean. Everybody he's beaten, he's beaten as a clean athlete. Take the tests and fight Mayweather so nobody has to come up with conspiracy theories

Manny without any negotiations, according to Floyd himself, brought down the testing period to 7 by way of blood PLUS random urine up to the fight PLUS blood and urine post fight. You should be asking where is Floyd in these negotiations and why he made a statement that he didn't want no part of Manny and preferred a vacation instead. With serious negotiations that number, 7, can come down. I doubt that is a major issue anymore.

as to why it wasn't okay for Mayweather to fight the Mosley he was apparently cowering from, yet is okay for Pacquiao because he's "all that's left."

I'm not blaming Floyd for fighting Mosley but you guys are all over Manny for doing the same. At least, I agreed that Manny should fight someone other than Mosley and Marquez ... but I guess you didn't read my previous posts.

As stated above, I don't blame Floyd for fighting Mosley but Floyd fans shouldn't come here and say "it was the fight that completed Floyd." When even Floyd fans are now saying that Mosley IS OLD and IS SHOT.

[ADP02]

You didnt see Mosley last 2 fights I take it ,,,, he IS old and SHOT !!

JMM is ok but not over 140 , he has shown he dont fill out 147 ,,,,,,,,

Pac is ducking Floyd again thats whats going down and you gullible fools who do not really give a **** who Pac fights so long as he is NOT PEDS tested and its not Floyd who will school him ,,, Mannyipulater is at work again .

I guess you too didn't read my previous posts. I agreed that I hope Manny fight someone other than Mosley or Marquez.

As for Mosley being OLD and SHOT .... we BOTH AGREE!!! All I'm saying is that where were you BEFORE or AFTER the Floyd fight to ADMIT it TOO?

You guys think the PEDs testing is the reason the fight isn't being made but I doubt it's as serious an issue as you make it sound. It's just a matter of negotiation more seriously from both sides and that will be taken care of. We just need to get Floyd out of his long term vacation.

[ADP02]

If you can't tell the difference between who and when, I can't help you.

IMDAZED, you can't even agree on something so obvious, how do you then expect me to take you seriously when you say that you will actually come and state that Floyd's opponent is not up to standards.

[ADP02]

Funny how Marquez could be a "tune-up" fight for somebody.

Those were Floyd's own words AFTER the commentators criticized Floyd for picking on the smaller Marquez.

You also forgot that Mosley was stalking Pacquiao and Mayweather, at least one of them responded with confrontation.

Manny fought Cotto in 2009 who beat Mosley and who is also promoted by Arum. So there was no ducking there. ALSO, Manny is thinking of fighting Mosley since the pickings are slim.

Those same guys you listed have called out Pacquiao as well. PWill has lobbied for that fight for awhile now, yet Pacquiao's team says "it wouldn't be a good fight because he's too tall" aka "if Manny's getting his a-- kicked in a one sided fight instead of doing the a-- kicking in a one sided fight, then it's not a good fight."

Williams himself said that Manny has the balls to fight him, not Floyd. Roach said this past week that Manny would take on P.Williams at 147. Roach also wants the Floyd fight. They took on Cotto, Oscar, Clottey, Margo in a very brief period with relatively no negotiation problems. Manny has never been a ducker. This can be seen by the way he fights.


The fundamental difference between Manny and Floyd is that Manny has fought them all and wants to fight Floyd next but Floyd is on a long vacation right now. Floyd in the last 4 years fought only Marquez and Hatton who are NOT a career 147lbs and recently an OLD and SHOT Mosley.

THE SAME 2 FIGHTERS (Marquez - Mosley) WHO YOU ARE CRITICIZING IF MANNY FIGHTS NEXT...... think about it a little!!!

[deejd]

Manny without any negotiations, according to Floyd himself, brought down the testing period to 7 by way of blood PLUS random urine up to the fight PLUS blood and urine post fight. You should be asking where is Floyd in these negotiations and why he made a statement that he didn't want no part of Manny and preferred a vacation instead. With serious negotiations that number, 7, can come down. I doubt that is a major issue anymore.



I'm not blaming Floyd for fighting Mosley but you guys are all over Manny for doing the same. At least, I agreed that Manny should fight someone other than Mosley and Marquez ... but I guess you didn't read my previous posts.

As stated above, I don't blame Floyd for fighting Mosley but Floyd fans shouldn't come here and say "it was the fight that completed Floyd." When even Floyd fans are now saying that Mosley IS OLD and IS SHOT.

More vacation talk, yet no talk of why Pacquiao lied to you by never agreeing to testing.

I could care less whether or not you blame Mayweather for fighting Mosley, it's the fact that you're trying utterly hard to detest Mayweather's win against him. If that's the case, then you're actually s---ting on Pacquiao's performance last week.

[deejd]

Those were Floyd's own words AFTER the commentators criticized Floyd for picking on the smaller Marquez.


Manny fought Cotto in 2009 who beat Mosley and who is also promoted by Arum. So there was no ducking there. ALSO, Manny is thinking of fighting Mosley since the pickings are slim.




Williams himself said that Manny has the balls to fight him, not Floyd. Roach said this past week that Manny would take on P.Williams at 147. Roach also wants the Floyd fight. They took on Cotto, Oscar, Clottey, Margo in a very brief period with relatively no negotiation problems. Manny has never been a ducker. This can be seen by the way he fights.


The fundamental difference between Manny and Floyd is that Manny has fought them all and wants to fight Floyd next but Floyd is on a long vacation right now. Floyd in the last 4 years fought only Marquez and Hatton who are NOT a career 147lbs and recently an OLD and SHOT Mosley.

THE SAME 2 FIGHTERS (Marquez - Mosley) WHO YOU ARE CRITICIZING IF MANNY FIGHTS NEXT...... think about it a little!!!

"Floyd's own words..."

Ok. I still think it's funny how somebody can consider JMM a tune up and the fact that Mayweather can call him that, and actually prove it, well... let's just say that not every opponent of Marquez can say the same.

The pickings aren't slim, there's a ton of fighters out there that Mayweather and Pacquiao are turning a deaf ear to. Mayweather wants Pacquiao, which is what the majority want. Pacquiao wants JMM or Mosley, which is what nobody wants. Have fun selling that.

[WESS]

You are incorrect.... about Marquez vs Floyd

There were plenty of EXCUSES by Floyd fans. Here are some:

- It was OK because Floyd deserves, as he put it after the fight, a tune-up fight.
Then why didn't Floyd fans realize this about Mosley (long inactivity) when he fought Floyd? Why couldn't he pick someone his own size as his tune-up fight? Why did he have to pick someone to make the odds so much in his favor? Talk about such low standards?

- It's OK to have a catch-weight fight against Marquez because it was a non-title fight.
Shitty excuse my Floyd friends when you need to get a guy who was just 2 fights away from 130 days.

- It's OK that Floyd fought at a higher than the agreed catch-weight against Marquez because they met and Marquez agreed to the money.
Honestly, do you believe it was OK? Honestly, would a Floyd fan have accepted that from Manny?

- Marquez was on a winning streak. He KOed Diaz and Casamayor and had a close one with Manny.
Again, what divisions were they in? Also, as impressive as his win was over Diaz, Diaz had many moments in the fight.

- He fought a #3 P4P and disposed of him.
Marquez became #3 or 4 P4P because of what he did at 126, 130 and 135. NOT at 147. If you think otherwise then why doesn't Floyd fight Martinez or Williams at 160lbs? Or if Klitchko becomes #8 P4P, why not fight him?

- Floyd fought Marquez because Marquez called him out.
Not a good reason. Williams, Manny, Margo and others had also called him out. He has yet to fight them.

- He fought the guy who Manny had problems with. That's a good reason.
Manny fought Marquez at Marquez's best weight and Marquez was also younger.


Same with Floyd against Mosley. Only now that they mention a fight with Manny do you consider him OLD and SHOT. Can I ask, where were you when people like me said that Floyd beat up an OLD, gassed out, Non-PEDs, inactive fighter who looked even worse against Mora? You like other Floyd fans were defending Floyd and calling it the best defeat of Floyd since slice-bread was invented!

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holy shyt guy, calm down about Floyd and JMM......

(When Pac fought Torrecamo, he came in over the specified "catchweight" and was ALSO penalized for wearing heavier gloves.... THE IRONY!!!!!)

Mayweather vs JMM was a shyt fight get over it... but lets not forget that Pac has come in overweight too.... but no we turn that blind eye for Pac.... lol

As for Floyd fighting Mosley, Shane WAS the man to beat (no matter WHAT you thought about Shane or everyone at 147. The fact was FLoyd fought the #1 man at 147). Remeber how EVERYONE said FLoyd was sooooooooo scared and a coward and that he was DUCKING Mosley and laughed when Mosley came into th ring after FLoyd's fight with JMM? Remember how people said Floyd was sooo scared????? Some had bets that Floyd would pull out of the fight.....

At the end of the day Floyd fought and beat Shane like everyone said he wouldnt and more importantly couldnt do... Floyd WAS sooooo scared wasnt he????? (funny how people are saying the same thing again, You would think they would learn)

The problem now is, MOSELY is not the man anymore... The other problem thats making you look like a clown is that your trying to discredit Mosley when he was #1 at 147. Dont be mad hes not #1 anymore and NOW all of a sudden Pac wants him...

Again, Mayweather's 1 fight in 2010, TRUMPS Pac's last two and not just in the meaning of the fight but as in PPV #'s AND money......

Dont be mad that your attempting to "degrade" FLoyd's wins over these two guys because the IRONY is that Pac NOW wants to fight them.... lol

[WESS]

IMDAZED, you can't even agree on something so obvious, how do you then expect me to take you seriously when you say that you will actually come and state that Floyd's opponent is not up to standards.

Mayweather's ONE fight in 2010:
Mosley WAS #1 WW coming off a KO win over the guy Pac just "cherry picked"

Pac's TWO fights in 2010:
Clottey WAS #5 WW and coming off a loss
Margarito ???? #1 Cheater..... coming off a lackluster "win" in Mexico

DO the math playboy.....

NOW climb up and get on my level......

[Laborer]

They both get sparked out by Manny.

if you any better, you'd not use that photoshopped pic.

[IMDAZED]

Koncz doesn't know ****, don't listen to him.